View Full Version : The meaning of 358/2 days
Ashen Lionheart
10-25-2007, 06:57 AM
Forgive me if this has already been figured out by someone on this site, I haven't been here a while.
Nomura has stated that the player will understand the meaning of "358/2 Days" at the very end of the game.
Why wait? Roxas is played in Twilight Town for 7 days in game. There is exactly one year (or 365 days) of time between CoM and KHII. 365-7=358. Now for the hard part...what does the "/2" mean? If it's literary, then it means that there will be another part of the game lasting only two days. If it's mathematical, than it means that there will, in fact, be 179 days. I would guess that it is neither of these interpretations, but I'm not sure what third interpretation would be correct.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Burning Oblivion
10-27-2007, 09:12 PM
Umm, KH2 only goes up to 6 days.
Dark Knight
10-27-2007, 09:15 PM
Forgive me if this has already been figured out by someone on this site, I haven't been here a while.
Why wait? Roxas is played in Twilight Town for 7 days in game. There is exactly one year (or 365 days) of time between CoM and KHII. 365-7=358. Now for the hard part...what does the "/2" mean? If it's literary, then it means that there will be another part of the game lasting only two days. If it's mathematical, than it means that there will, in fact, be 179 days. I would guess that it is neither of these interpretations, but I'm not sure what third interpretation would be correct.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Nice.
Moved To Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.
Apple_Jack
10-29-2007, 02:04 PM
I was thinking that the /2 part has something to do with the fact that Sora and Roxas are essentially the same person.
So the 358 days are /2 because that time is shared between Sora and Roxas.
I dont know if that made any sense but i cant really think of a good way to explain what im thinking.
Ashen Lionheart
10-30-2007, 03:40 PM
The problem with that is Sora isn't likely to be doing any adventuring while he's having his memory restored, and besides that, this game is supposed to be taking a break from Sora's story (though Coded was also supposed to be a break from Sora's story, but it's a virtual Sora so I guess it doesn't count).
Apple_Jack
10-31-2007, 02:50 AM
Sora doesnt have to be doing anything, Thats kind of actually the point. Its just that the fact that Sora and Roxas are basically the same person the /2 stands for both of them experiencing that time.
Lightning Strike
10-31-2007, 08:32 AM
Maybe the /2 means that it is Roxas's story and not Soras, for as Apple said, they were once and now are the same person, so its Roxas's time
Ashen Lionheart
10-31-2007, 07:05 PM
Why on Earth would a /2 imply that? A /2 implies that the time is divided between them, not given entirely from one entity to another.
Lightning Strike
11-01-2007, 09:42 AM
It was just a sugeestion
ultimate king mickey
11-01-2007, 10:32 AM
the 2 prob. stands for the fact that u play as roxas and riku
Ashen Lionheart
11-01-2007, 07:19 PM
You play as Riku? I hadn't heard this. Besides, if that's true it would be 358/14 days, as you can also play as the other twelve members of the Organization (maybe the new girl, too, that would make it 358/15).
You know, there has been a quote about someting like this, "Because CoM, that's why 151 days". I dunno whre it come from, but it is pretty simple to crack.
C-3
O-15
M-13
Put them together in a row and u will see 31513.
See that 151 in the middle? Of course this does not explains anyting but it might be where the KH team gets their idea on Roxas' day to exist, 151 days.
358/2 Days is a code I havent crack because im lazy. I didnt even want to write my theory that will explain so much about all 3 games and the future KH3 in 1 row. Wow do I sound cocky :P
TerraT3
11-01-2007, 11:39 PM
we have to wiat my friend is getting it and im etting bbs so we're going to tell each other about it
Ashen Lionheart
11-02-2007, 11:31 PM
If all my devious schemes come to fruition, I'll have both of these games.
Mwahahahahaha!
However, running 358/2 through that same code...
35 and 58 can't possibly be letters in the alphabet, so we'll disregard that possibility. So, 3 (C) 5 (E) 8 (H) over 2 (B)
CEH/B days. I don't think that's it...but you're probably on to something with that 151 days thing. I'm not sure what, but it's something.
Unkown-Aelix
11-03-2007, 03:03 AM
/2 is easy, for me. divided by 2 means cut in half, Roxas is the other half of Sora.
365-7=358
Sora's time in recovery - Roxas's time you get to play = 358
Roxas+Sora=Sora, Sora= 365 days Roxas = 7 days.
its all about the Roxas/Sora relationship which means that there is something we dont know yet
we know how nobodies are formed, we know about roxas being part of sora, we know about roxas and axel, but there's something else. extra.
Someone up there said that we only got to play 6 days as roxas, so then what happens on the 7th day? (God rested, ha-ha i made a funny!)
On the video it shows roxas in worlds that Sora visited battleing heartless, could this be the filler of when Roxas worked for Org. XIII (remember how xemnas used him, since he weilded keyblades, to harvest hearts?).
My theory is that this game is only telling the story of Roxas when working for Org. XIII. but then again the only info I'm going on is in this thread.
as for the 151 thing, I have no idea. Maybe in the game, you have to collect 151 hearts or thats how many roxas harvests while sora is napping.
well since we know that while sora was taking his siesta everyone forgot about him, so we can rule him out or any disney/ff people that knew him will be part of the story.
Braydsworth
11-04-2007, 08:09 AM
I think the /2 has to do with either Roxas and Namine or Roxas and Riku. However there has yet to be even a reference to what King Mickey and Kairi were up to during the time period of CoM or the year after...hmmm
Ashen Lionheart
11-06-2007, 04:41 AM
I would guess that when there's 151 days left in the year, Roxas figures out that his days are numbered...and then goes on the run from whatever is numbering them. Maybe DiZ. Maybe the Organization. Probably both. Poor Roxas, alone among enemies with no friends, only memories...no wonder Riku pwned him.
Also, yes, it might mean that it's because Roxas is the other half of Sora, but I don't think it would be that obvious. After all, we're not supposed to figure out about this until the end of the game...if it was that obvious...it would be kind of dumb. At the same time, it would also be dumb if we had no clue as to what it meant and it wasn't revealed to us until we played the game because then all our guesswork would be totally pointless.
Roxas[Nobody]
11-18-2007, 01:53 AM
i doesnt mean 358 days
it means three-five-eight over two like a fraction
Key of Valor
11-18-2007, 02:08 AM
Perhaps it is because Nobodies fade in a Half-Life Process.
Anyone who knows what carbon dating is knows what I mean.
Please don't tell me to explain cause you could find out on your
own. (This is probably not true because Roxas learns the date
of his expiration 358 days before)
Or maybe it is because Roxas is two people in one like in Roxas
Nobody's Ven and Roxas theory. Maybe in the end he learns
he is not entirely Sora's Nobody but instead fused with Ven's
Body.
Sounds crazy but there is proof to support this.
Roxas[Nobody]
11-18-2007, 02:18 AM
well if it took sora a year which is 365 days
roxas lived for a year and 7 days:confused:
then maybe the over to means two ppl ven and sora....wait
i dont get what im saying myself...lol
Key of Valor
11-18-2007, 02:25 AM
I think I get it.
On the day of Roxas's end
he was surprise to see he
had not faded into darkness.
Then he learned of his composition
which somehow explains why his life
is longer than what he originally
expected. Something to do with Ven
I bet.
Roxas[Nobody]
11-18-2007, 02:36 AM
this theory fits everywhere...lol
well this is confusing ecspecially when nomrua said u wont figure out the meaning until the end of the game
lionsbarrage
11-18-2007, 08:05 AM
it cannot be that complicated, espcially for the audience that plays it, in any case what i think is that itll throw in something completely new to how they are connected, in which none of our theories would be right. If he claims well never figure it out.
We'll never figure it out because it probably has nothing to do with Roxas. Just that Roxas said that he was going to disappear in 151 days doesn't means that the title 358/2 Days has anything to do with it. Which means we have to think at a whole new level. Rethink it. And better if you are able, in Japanese. It is originally Japanese after all.
soraisinkh3
11-18-2007, 10:25 PM
I think that the most probable meaning for the 358/2 title is that it has something to do with a span of 358 days in one world (Roxas) over the span of two days in another (Sora)
kingoflight
11-18-2007, 10:55 PM
hmmmmmmm
so what ur saying is there an extra 2 days in sora demendion
I know one thing for sure. Its true meaning has nothing to do with numbers (90% chance). It signifies something in the game which is predictable in the game but so hidden and well disguised that we'll not find it out easily.
kingoflight
11-18-2007, 11:48 PM
u know just a hunch correct me if wrong what if the 2 sdtands for both soera and roxas huh huh
lionsbarrage
11-19-2007, 06:35 AM
haha no. actaually i dunno, but i think that it does have to do with numbers.
You're rite. I know only a hunch. In fact I couldn't understand at all what it means. That's why I'm trying to look it as 1 and simple, not many and complicated. The truth is always so bare, only that we shut our eyes we couldn't see the light.
kingoflight
11-19-2007, 10:44 PM
ok u lost me at ur rite
Ashen Lionheart
11-20-2007, 02:47 AM
I think Nomura has severely underestimated the intelligence of KH fans when he said we wouldn't understand the meaning of the title until the end. I'm almost certain that the 358 Days part is one year minus the seven days you play as Roxas in KH2. The /2 continues to baffle me, as I'm not certain that any of the theories given are correct. But I'm determined to figure it out.
kingoflight
11-20-2007, 03:07 AM
since it focusing on him and im alone
what if it the new organization member
lionsbarrage
11-20-2007, 07:53 AM
i know i dont get the 2 part myself, and why it looks like 358/2, if u were to take that it would come out to 179, i mean does that number signify anything?
kingoflight
11-21-2007, 03:01 AM
dont know in math the slash mean multiply
A man who created such a brilliant world, not to mention the team behind him, severely underestimating the mind of KH fans? C'mon, it's general knowledge that people will think towards 179 days having something to do with Roxas, and others. You severely underestimated him, not the other way.
179 is a yes, there's a high possibility about that number. But we're searching for something inner.
My guess? For now, I think at the ending of the game, 358/2 Days will present itself as a private joke by Axel or Roxas. Or maybe something else. Sounds ridiculous but might be the truth you know. How many times people take such things, as the title?
lionsbarrage
11-22-2007, 01:57 AM
dude, u do not have to rip on mine or any theory anyone else suggests, that is rude.
In any case i was just asking if 179 represented or resemebled anything. Of course everything about Kh has some inner meaning, but u have to be sensible to that audience. Or they could also put something simple, but at the samtime something completely new, so then of course we wont be able to figure it out.
Ashen Lionheart
11-22-2007, 04:09 AM
Being a brilliant game designer who dabbles in meta-physics doesn't mean he'll be any good at judging the intelligence of his fans.
shadow15
11-23-2007, 01:41 AM
Okay now you guys do know how the title is pronounced right?
It's pronounced three five eight over two days.
So three five eight, those numbers are over two days or something in someway.
But why is it in a fraction form?
normally if it's going to be pronounced like that wouldn't it be like 3 x 5 x 8/2=60.
But that's way off i really don't know so. :(
Roxas[Nobody]
11-23-2007, 01:50 AM
i said the how three five eight thing but ppl are treating it as 358 days
lionsbarrage
11-23-2007, 01:53 AM
well, thats because that number does hold a strong meaning.
Roxas[Nobody]
11-23-2007, 01:57 AM
welll duhhhhhhhhh
lionsbarrage
11-23-2007, 02:07 AM
yeah, but then some others go and say no or find different resasons, frankly i dont really care, i means if it only has to do with days.
Roxas[Nobody]
11-23-2007, 02:13 AM
but there also gettin to mathy...lol
lionsbarrage
11-23-2007, 02:42 AM
yeah, i mean even if it does have a meaning, to put 358/2 as a Kh title, doesnt seem that right.
I wasn't being rude... But it's just not Nomura who is composing Kingdom Hearts, there are a whole bunch of teams working and thinking as well.
lionsbarrage
11-23-2007, 06:13 AM
ur statements were in fact rude, even if u dont think it was, anyways teams may be working on it, and coming with ideas, but the base story all comes from Nomura.
shadowdra126
11-23-2007, 04:37 PM
i read somewhere that this game is not about sora but about roxas
UltimaxWeapon
11-23-2007, 04:38 PM
maybe its actually 358 - 2, like think about it. sora went to sleep for a year, and 358/2 days starts after CoM, and one year later sora wakes up
Ashen Lionheart
11-23-2007, 06:47 PM
Manners only get in the way of clear communication. If I have to be rude to say what I'm thinking, I will. Would you rather that I lie to you?
I think the way 358/2 Days works is like this...
358
---- Days
002
As in "358 Days divided by 2 days".
Roxas[Nobody]
11-23-2007, 09:44 PM
Manners only get in the way of clear communication. If I have to be rude to say what I'm thinking, I will. Would you rather that I lie to you?
I think the way 358/2 Days works is like this...
358
---- Days
002
As in "358 Days divided by 2 days".
wrong cuz it means three-five-eight over two not three hundred and fifty eight
The King of KH
11-24-2007, 05:40 PM
Forgive me if this has already been figured out by someone on this site, I haven't been here a while.
Why wait? Roxas is played in Twilight Town for 7 days in game. There is exactly one year (or 365 days) of time between CoM and KHII. 365-7=358. Now for the hard part...what does the "/2" mean? If it's literary, then it means that there will be another part of the game lasting only two days. If it's mathematical, than it means that there will, in fact, be 179 days. I would guess that it is neither of these interpretations, but I'm not sure what third interpretation would be correct.
Anyone have any thoughts?
nice stuff..........anyway im confused with the title.....i guess we gotta wait....
AquaReformed
11-28-2007, 03:08 PM
I think Roxas spent just under a year (358) with the Org and betrayed them and then KH2 starts after he got placed in Virtual Twighlight Town and he was there for 7 days Making a year.
SoraTheNobody
01-01-2008, 10:59 PM
The /2 might mean that it is the time of Roxas [the 358 days] divided between two people, or two stories happening at this time?
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