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lionsbarrage
12-01-2007, 07:16 AM
Before i start on this theory, there are some things i wish to tell u ahead of time so it doesnt confuse or anger anyone.

1. Thie is essentially a 2 part theory. I shall explain the first thoery so that the 2nd theory is more understood.

2. This contains spoilers from the BBS trailers from KH2 and KH2FM, so if u have no tseen it or waiting to see it, i would adivse to read with caution since i say it again it contains spoilers.

OK so im going to start off this first part theory by saying what we already know about BBS, xehanort and 14th member.
First we see that Ven Aqua and terra are among themselves friends, and we obviously know that they fight and old man who is known as master xehanort in sunset horizons, but we also know that they or so far only terra knows him in their younger days. So its pretty much to us assumed that Terra and maybe the others were his apprentices. We also see that at the end of the trailer ven gets frozen and terra start to gain evil orange eyes from the outcome.

Now skipping ahead into the future of Soras story we see that there is also a man named xehanort, who is evil. We also see that Roxas has the appearance of Ven from BBS his hieght hair color and style, and his wristband. We have also been confirmed that there is a connection between Ven and Roxas which includes Sora as well. We have also seen that there is a so called "14th member" of org. 13 who is female.

With all of this known, i have put togther a simple timeline thoery of BBS inclusing characters that lead up to the events of Kh2. Based on how Terra looks he bares a striking resemblance to the xehanort of KH. His haistyle is of the same, and eventually we see him gain evil orange eyes in BBS. We have only seen evil orange eyes from xehanort in the entire Kh seires, from xehanortds heartless to Riku with xehanort in him, to xemnas Xehanorts nobody. So while old man in BBS ma be called master xehanort he bares no resemblance to the xehanort of today except for the clothes. So what else i known about the xehanort we know? Ill tell u. He likes to take the name of his master. So lets assume that since terrra called xehanort, "master xehanort in BBS he may be his master, so he could of easily taken his name for himself back then just like in KH where he took the name of ansem. If we were to assume Terra is in fact the xehanort of today it would make sense in the case of the phrase we see in the trailer, "memory of xehanort." maybe thats what BBs is exactly that the lost memory of xehanort, back then when he was called terra.
Of course this is just a thoery however it is a simple theory, that has much support.


This is the second part of the theory that ties in the events.
Ok so if we assume terra is the xehanort we know we can peice togther some events. if terra reguardless if had turned evil, he wouldnt betray his friends aqua and Ven. Seeing how Ven may be frozen and virtually on the stage of dying, there may, or may not have been a way to save him, but maybe preserve a memory of him. We have seen in KH2 both Roxas and Sora and co get digitized by ansems computer. Well maybe in a sense either Terra or Aqua had used a computer or even may have computer to digitize the design of Ven so that he live on in a computer or something as a memory. So that if xehanort once he was turned into a nobody, still had the design of Ven in ansems computer, and once Soras body became a nobody, Xemnas may have used the design of Ven in conjunction with Roxas in order to give Roxas the appearance of Ven as a way of bringing him back.
Now lets take a llok at aqua the 14thmember and the rikus keyblade. Now from what we have seen Rikus keyblade was obtained in TWNTW, since before in TT and when he fought sora in KH2 he didnt have it yet. How did he get it? and why was one of those 3 keyblades in BBS the same one? well lets take a look at Aqua. maybe it was up to here and terra to hide those keyblades so that they may be never used for evil as master xehanort intended to do with his weapon.
Well maybe Aqua had kept way to dawn and eventually she becomes the 14th member. I am now convinced she is the 14thmember based on a couple things.
We can see that she is feamle, and her armor was left on the floor. We also know that xigbar or whoever it was ,was questioning about xemnas meeting with some unknown person in the basement. and when that questioned was brought up xemnas admitted he knew the person. Well since org.13 was never called org.14 maybe the new member only associated with xemnas, or only entered as a spy to see what her olf friend was up to. Im also going to assume she was the one who gave Riku way to dawn in TWNTW, which would only make perfect sense if Aqua was the 14th member and had the keyblade in her possesion, if we assume that.

There is also the question as to we fought Terra in KH2FM how does that fit in? well look at where we fought Terra, the location was in disney castle next to the portal to timeless river, what if the portal we took to fight Terra was also another portal to the past just a different timeline, that would make sense to fit it in the story instead of just game mechanics.




This thoery of mine is simple enough to understand, that ties in perfectly in the timeline, although yes some parts are still not fully awnsered or still hard to get.

Anyways i like to here ur thoughts on this.

Roxas[Nobody]
12-01-2007, 10:22 PM
if terra was xehanort would xemnas have a keyblade?

Key of Valor
12-01-2007, 10:23 PM
I don't believe so because Xemnas didn't have a heart.

vanilla bear
12-01-2007, 11:34 PM
roxas has a heart? isn't that up to debate? aside from that, to the original poster, there's nothing about that theory i didn't like... it actually resonates with nearly all of my ideas about aqua.. i think she may have taken ven to find help and eventually she turned to the organization

Roxas[Nobody]
12-02-2007, 12:08 AM
I don't believe so because Xemnas didn't have a heart.

well roxas has keyblades and he doesnt have a heart

Key of Valor
12-02-2007, 12:13 AM
Well I personally think you need to be connected to some kind of heart to
have a keyblade. A heartless wielding a Keyblade is more believable than
a nobody wielding a Keyblade because heartlesses are connected to the
individual's captive heart. Nobodies are only connected to their own in a loose
sense that makes them incapable to acknowledge the presence of their
bond with their hearts since they are suppressed by darkness.
This is just my opinion but I really think that without a heart being involved
in someway that a nobody couldn't wield a Keyblade.

lionsbarrage
12-02-2007, 12:46 AM
well maybe being tied to the heart is what makes Roxas able to use them, especially since at each point hes able to wear 3 different kinds, oathkeeper which ties to Kairi, oblivion which ties to Riku, and kingdom key which ties to Sora, and maybe since all 3 mostly Sora are still alive hes able to wield it, who unlike xemnas whos real self, is gone.

Xuan
12-02-2007, 02:41 AM
'There is also the question as to we fought Terra in KH2FM how does that fit in? well look at where we fought Terra, the location was in disney castle next to the portal to timeless river, what if the portal we took to fight Terra was also another portal to the past just a different timeline, that would make sense to fit it in the story instead of just game mechanics.'
This is absolutely correct. But I thought we always knew this?

About the others I couldn't give an answer. Your theory is same like mine, to many made up future predicting. But it's good anyway.The Way to The Dawn might be given by the 14th member to Riku in his journey.

Although er could you next time write the theory in better English? I'm very sorry, but I've gotten used long time ago in reading proper English and a sudden change erm, it's quite hard to understand. And you mistake TWTNW to TWNTW. Quite confusing you know.

lionsbarrage
12-02-2007, 03:29 AM
'There is also the question as to we fought Terra in KH2FM how does that fit in? well look at where we fought Terra, the location was in disney castle next to the portal to timeless river, what if the portal we took to fight Terra was also another portal to the past just a different timeline, that would make sense to fit it in the story instead of just game mechanics.'
This is absolutely correct. But I thought we always knew this?

About the others I couldn't give an answer. Your theory is same like mine, to many made up future predicting. But it's good anyway.The Way to The Dawn might be given by the 14th member to Riku in his journey.

Although er could you next time write the theory in better English? I'm very sorry, but I've gotten used long time ago in reading proper English and a sudden change erm, it's quite hard to understand. And you mistake TWTNW to TWNTW. Quite confusing you know.


well my theory isnt future predictions, but more so what have we seen and peicing a time line of it. Really i just fit in the gaps and questions about what we dont know, but of course its just my theory. In reguards to fighting Terra. While i know some already know the awnser, i just put it there because there was also another thread that asked about it, so some people may not know.

As far as the english goes, u may be studying proper english, however most chat forums don't use proper english. We use short versions of words or letters for a long time, that people pick up on that. In any case thanks for ur comments.

D.A.
12-27-2007, 12:31 AM
well my theory isnt future predictions, but more so what have we seen and peicing a time line of it. Really i just fit in the gaps and questions about what we dont know, but of course its just my theory. In reguards to fighting Terra. While i know some already know the awnser, i just put it there because there was also another thread that asked about it, so some people may not know.

As far as the english goes, u may be studying proper english, however most chat forums don't use proper english. We use short versions of words or letters for a long time, that people pick up on that. In any case thanks for ur comments.
who would comment about proper english if u get on a forum u should know that