Robots and having rights?

[Riku-Sora]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5ae9b434-8f8e-11db-9ba3-0000779e2340.html

Read this article first and then tell me what do you think of this. It is from an offical place.

I know it is not going to be science fiction for too much longer. I mean in times terms if it only takes another 50 years to happen that is rather short time before it happens.

What are your viewpoints on this?

I for one am kinda iffy about it. I am going to be kinda concerned how things turn out since of course the way they may end up thinking of us and this is not because of what Hollywood has been showing. Makes me kinda scared actually as well excited about it.

Please! Please! This is a serious conversation so I don't want the jokes of they are going to kill us all and it is the end of the world junk. If you are going to do that at least give serious reason why you believe that and just don't pass it off as some gag thread I made.

[_Roxas_]

Hm...... I have actually always wondered what it would be like to interact with robots right in reality. It also bedazzles me on how can this be so possible.

A robot wouldn't and should not be treated as a servant though. It should be treated as a friend. As far as I'm concerened, if scientists can make interactible toy-bots, then they can make an auto-mated robot.

Maybe then they will evolutionize into androids(?). The future can hold many possiblilities. I believe that this can happen. I feel somewhat excited, but not too happy for it. I'm okay with it overall.

[x?Pure_Heart?x]

I bet some iRobot stuff will go down...im not joking i think we as humans are always to greedy and then we will make the robots too smart and they'll be like F this and kill us off. because robots arent like dogs or cats were they cant really kill you off AI could become smart enough to start killing us and making a robot army.....anyways yea.

[Wzrdto25]

good lord
these topics
>>

I dont know about robots
but i guess you're right >>

[Riku-Sora]

;726697']good lord
these topics
>>

I dont know about robots
but i guess you're right >>

Yes! I know I come up with some interesting ones I know.

[x?Pure_Heart?x]

Yes! I know I come up with some interesting ones I know.

lol i was thinin that myself this in an out of there kinda topic Do a normal one like God. haha jp.

[Wzrdto25]

yeah thats not it
>>
sadly this is nothing i can talk about
*leaves*

[robbie makin love]

before i talk about the point i wanna talk about just how cool this is
a few decades ago people would have laffed at this sort of thing
and now scientists are taking it seriously
am i alone in thinking this is incredible
it makes me sad im not goin to live to see this all the way through
50 years from now i'll 66
wat a shame

anyway to the point
i think wen it comes to AI (artificail intellignace) we need to be quite careful
giving a machine a consioucsness of its being could be a very unusual experiance
what would it think about its surroundings, what would it think about its self, what would it think about knowing its creaotr perssonaly
this could be both remarkable and dangerous
i think we should never let it happen really
the problems it would create are a bit risky
over population for one
robots dont die we'd run out of space for living eventually
and this will give rise to crime and make it harder to stop
machines can always be changed as long as u rewire them in the right way
and they'll also be much more suprior to humans
if they think for themselves they may want to break our way of living
human flesh vs robot metal is one way battle

but on the plus side it would bring up some amasing philisophical quetions and possibly answers
like wat would happen if a robot with a consicousness prayed to a god and became dedicated to religion
he's not techincally a living thing but he can have beliefs
but he'll never go to heaven

the idea of AI is both exciting and scary i dont know which side to take
is humantiys quest for knowledge really that risky
i just dont know
im gonna have to sit on the fence on this one

[x?Pure_Heart?x]

i think wen it comes to AI (artificail intellignace) we need to be quite careful
giving a machine a consioucsness of its being could be a very unusual experiance


What if they started to commit suicide because they're depressed....robots jumping off buildings..

[Kryptik]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5ae9b434-8f8e-11db-9ba3-0000779e2340.html

Read this article first and then tell me what do you think of this. It is from an offical place.

I know it is not going to be science fiction for too much longer. I mean in times terms if it only takes another 50 years to happen that is rather short time before it happens.

What are your viewpoints on this?

I for one am kinda iffy about it. I am going to be kinda concerned how things turn out since of course the way they may end up thinking of us and this is not because of what Hollywood has been showing. Makes me kinda scared actually as well excited about it.

Please! Please! This is a serious conversation so I don't want the jokes of they are going to kill us all and it is the end of the world junk. If you are going to do that at least give serious reason why you believe that and just don't pass it off as some gag thread I made.

I would have to say no because I don't want to be put in prison/jail for dropping an object completely by accident. Especially if the guarentee is over. I don't want to have that responsibility on my shoulders. Any electronical object should be treated with respect and accidents do happen. However I don't think people should slam them into other things just for the hell of it when they have all this money.

[Riku-Sora]

I would have to say no because I don't want to be put in prison/jail for dropping an object completely by accident. Especially if the guarentee is over. I don't want to have that responsibility on my shoulders. Any electronical object should be treated with respect and accidents do happen. However I don't think people should slam them into other things just for the hell of it when they have all this money.

Umm... mind explaining what you just said.

[Kryptik]

Umm... mind explaining what you just said.

Well according to what I just read in the article I can already view in my mind that after children,teenagers, and adults throwing around objects such as those could end up in prison for harassment or obstruction of justice. So if Machinery ever had these rights as humanity does now then a lot of us would be in jail/prison for destroying them and indecent behavior. Just think about it.

[TerraT3]

How do you except something to have right when we are fighting for ours.at least some of us

[Kryptik]

How do you except something to have right when we are fighting for ours.at least some of us

Well thats also true but I was thinking in line with being guilty or not guilty. The court system and whether the punishment would be harsh or not.
The other thing that I had in mind was that if some people are seriously thinking about giving them rights. I hope they keep in mind their own positions of jobs and if they are ready to be tried for obstructing the objects rights. They drop things quite a lot and call it "Accidents" So if thats true then we are all guilty. But I think differently then everyone else in the world.
But we are all fighting our own battle/war in this lifetime. So there are a lot of things to keep in mind while figuring that question out.

[Riku-Sora]

Well thats also true but I was thinking in line with being guilty or not guilty. The court system and whether the punishment would be harsh or not.
The other thing that I had in mind was that if some people are seriously thinking about giving them rights. I hope they keep in mind their own positions of jobs and if they are ready to be tried for obstructing the objects rights. They drop things quite a lot and call it "Accidents" So if thats true then we are all guilty. But I think differently then everyone else in the world.
But we are all fighting our own battle/war in this lifetime. So there are a lot of things to keep in mind while figuring that question out.

But wouldn't there be a difference between damaging machines without AI opposed to ones with AI?

[Frogs557]

robots having rights... that is the issue here... well, they would need rights if they ever were given emotions and free will, but that is very close to impossible, so no.

[Kryptik]

But wouldn't there be a difference between damaging machines without AI opposed to ones with AI?


Well depends on the damage and how what was done to it. Then it depends on how old/young the party that has done the damage to the AI. Then you have to accept the warranty and how long it goes. Therefore you would have to count up how long you would be in juvenile prison, jail, or voluntary help. There's a lot of questions to ask yourself. And no I don't think there would be a difference. Damage is damage no matter how big or small it is.

[Felix The Cat]

Whats the point robots having right there only robots?
Its not like there can love, or hate, or feel pain like normal people can, robots are just scraps of metal with no emotions. well you compair them to a human, well that a different story.
Even if robots did have emotions there would be as real as a normal persons emotion and plus the robots emotions colud get alot of debugs/errors.

[Kryptik]

Whats the point robots having right there only robots?
Its not like there can love, or hate, or feel pain like normal people can, robots are just scraps of metal with no emotions. well you compair them to a human, well that a different story.
Even if robots did have emotions there would be as real as a normal persons emotion and plus the robots emotions colud get alot of debugs/errors.

You mean like the rest of Humanity?