Theory Of What The Title Means!

[Valitrex]

Like most of my theories, this one is very enigmatic, so I don't have complete reasoning behind it. This theory is about the meaning of this game's title. First of all, at the end of the game's trailer, Roxas whispers "I will vanish from this world in 151 days." Now, the title could most likely be a math expression. When you divide 358 by 2, you get 179. Keep in mind that Roxas said "151". 179 - 151 gives you 28. When that answer is divided by two, you get 14, which is how many members are in the Organization in this game. I know, the math is somewhat confusing, but Nomura is smart. He could have come up with this for all you know. So, the title could mean that the number of Organization members somehow affects how many days it will be between Roxas' birth and disappearance. Leave any comments or other theories.

[second sora]

I thought of something like that once that i can't remember anymore. But that is a very good theory I kinda think it's a tad too many math equations it may be more simple or it maybe more complicated. All i know is that is a very good discovery you have there.

[TerraT3]

I always thought it was how many days Roxas was "alive"

[second sora]

okay please clear this up 358 isn't days in a year is it? I didn't think it was but my friend does. Since it wasn't I thought his days of being alive.

[Valitrex]

okay please clear this up 358 isn't days in a year is it? I didn't think it was but my friend does. Since it wasn't I thought his days of being alive.

No, a year is 365, which brings up another equation in my head:
3 + 6 + 5= 14

[second sora]

okay thats what i thought it was it just wasn't right and i too have thought up that equation.

[Keybladewarrior69]

wow confusing stuff lol never no the tite might not even have a meaning might just be random

[second sora]

every title has a meaning but sometimes you have to play the game first to understand it. So we may think of all these theories and then play the game and understand the name.

[Chapel]

It would be hilarious if those were just the numbers of how much his last pizza cost....

but anyways, that too, is a good theory.

[ShikaX]

....
you know, you are kinda going at this like the movie the number 24 or sometin like that..

but good theory none the less

[mysteryRoxas]

O_O
for some reason, it makes no sence, yet at the same time, perfect sence.
I never thought about it this way, but you're right. all that math would give you 14, which is the same number of organiztaion members.
nice work.

[war0706]

awwwww man u said pizza and know im hungry

[Valitrex]

....
you know, you are kinda going at this like the movie the number 24 or sometin like that..

but good theory none the less
You mean The Number 23? Yeah, I was already thinking of that movie when I was doing the math. Before I saw it, I was never interested in numbers, but now that interest is combining with my fan-ism of Kingdom Hearts. Weird o.O

[mysteryRoxas]

awwwww man u said pizza and know im hungry



CUT OUT THE SPAMMING

[Valitrex]

mysteryROXAS, where'd you find that pic? (your avatar) cuz I've been looking for new Birth by Sleep and 358/2 Days pics, but I didn't see that one of Ven

[Alanon]

Well Thats Alot Of Math. But KH Always Has You Wondering So Its Best Not To Spoil It. But I AM SOOO Mad The Games Only Coming Out In Ps3 Now i have to but a whole new consol but i thikn its well worth it.

[Valitrex]

I AM SOOO Mad The Games Only Coming Out In Ps3 Now i have to but a whole new consol but i thikn its well worth it.
What are you talking about? It's for the Nintendo DS. Only KH3 will be for the PS3.

[gamemaster1087]

Like most of my theories, this one is very enigmatic, so I don't have complete reasoning behind it. This theory is about the meaning of this game's title. First of all, at the end of the game's trailer, Roxas whispers "I will vanish from this world in 151 days." Now, the title could most likely be a math expression. When you divide 358 by 2, you get 179. Keep in mind that Roxas said "151". 179 - 151 gives you 28. When that answer is divided by two, you get 14, which is how many members are in the Organization in this game. I know, the math is somewhat confusing, but Nomura is smart. He could have come up with this for all you know. So, the title could mean that the number of Organization members somehow affects how many days it will be between Roxas' birth and disappearance. Leave any comments or other theories.

Dude. WTF!!! You are WAY too good at math!!! It would have taken me a month to figure that out!!!

[lionsbarrage]

its still has the concept that this may not have to do wit h math at all, especially since u cant divide three, five, eight into 179 because its all seperate numbers. Also u cant really count 14 members, really there is only 13 with 1 secret person behind the scenes. u have to remember she is only called 14 by the fans and stuff to give her some sort of reference since we do not know her name yet.

[Key of Valor]

I agree. You can't really get the number 179 out of the code.

I have been trying to uncover its primary concept for some time.

First off, notice that 3 5 8 aren't only increasing integers but also the
sum of the first two equals the third.

Also I'm considering that The Lost Two might have something to do
with the code as well.

Still though, nothing is quite clear on how the code is to be deciphered.

[lionsbarrage]

yeah, wreacking my brain back and forth for the math of these numbers bores me, video games are for fun, not school work lol.

[gamemaster1087]

yeah, wreacking my brain back and forth for the math of these numbers bores me, video games are for fun, not school work lol.

I agree. Plus I don't think that math has that much to do with it. It would have taken years to come up with those numbers. I think it has a hidden meaning in the games.

[xemnasdestroyer358]

u are all probably right but maybe 179 the answer to that has something to do with it

[gamemaster1087]

Square-Enix said that the title will only make sense at the very end of the game

[Shadow of Light]

Like most of my theories, this one is very enigmatic, so I don't have complete reasoning behind it. This theory is about the meaning of this game's title. First of all, at the end of the game's trailer, Roxas whispers "I will vanish from this world in 151 days." Now, the title could most likely be a math expression. When you divide 358 by 2, you get 179. Keep in mind that Roxas said "151". 179 - 151 gives you 28. When that answer is divided by two, you get 14, which is how many members are in the Organization in this game. I know, the math is somewhat confusing, but Nomura is smart. He could have come up with this for all you know. So, the title could mean that the number of Organization members somehow affects how many days it will be between Roxas' birth and disappearance. Leave any comments or other theories.

This is the best and only theory I heard about 358/2 days.

[gamemaster1087]

I just came up with another math theory! ( Same equation, different theory.)

14 x 2 = 28

There are 14 members of Organization 13 in this game. That means that there are actually 28 different people because there are the organization members and their originals. So i'm guessing that this may have something to do with the originals.

28 + 151 = 179

Take the 28 people plus the 151 days and you get 179.

179 x 2 = 358

179 times 2 is 358. There are two versions of the same person, Roxas and Sora. This could mean that something is going to happen to sora, too.

I'm still working on how the 179 comes in. It could be that there are 17 worlds in this game. ( 1 + 7 + 9 = 17)

[xemnasdestroyer358]

sounds good to me

[Paradise]

I just came up with another math theory! ( Same equation, different theory.)

14 x 2 = 28

There are 14 members of Organization 13 in this game. That means that there are actually 28 different people because there are the organization members and their originals. So i'm guessing that this may have something to do with the originals.

28 + 151 = 179

Take the 28 people plus the 151 days and you get 179.

179 x 2 = 358

179 times 2 is 358. There are two versions of the same person, Roxas and Sora. This could mean that something is going to happen to sora, too.

I'm still working on how the 179 comes in. It could be that there are 17 worlds in this game. ( 1 + 7 + 9 = 17)

I tried looking for the worlds in the KHII universe.. I only counted 15 :/

[gamemaster1087]

well, maby this one will have different worlds

[Paradise]

I doubt it x_x;
But what do I know? xD

[bigbadcloud]

i have a teroy that what if each one of thoes numbers means a org13 member ok so far there was 5 guys in kh com
but roxas was in kh2 along with axel but i be live they are teling the story on how they died in what order
so if 5 guys did die in com wich axel never died in there but he did apear there there was 8 in kh2 so what was the 3 it could be the 3 knights or 3 other members that are hidden

[lionsbarrage]

I thought of that idea too but i found no way it relates to the story or title, not to say there isnt but, i hate dealing with math in a video game.

[Key of Valor]

Actually, that's one of my more favorite ideas about thr title in the
respect that 5 is for the members in CoM and 8 for the ones in KH2.

3: (maybe) Riku, DiZ, Namine (or maybe one of them could be replaced by XIV)
5: The traitorous members of the Organization
8: The members that stayed loyal

As I've said before, 3'5'8/2 Days might reveal the roots of
why those five in CoM betrayed the Organization.

I think though, the title may have to do more so with a
prophecy of some sort, a coded prophecy relating to a
specific event.

[lionsbarrage]

Im not sure about that prophecy, only that Roxas supposedly said he would dissapear in ---- days, 151 i think it was?

I dont know how that turns out, but i think Axel messes it up on both sides, its like hes a wild card, even though hes a double agent and stuff i f dont think u can really count those numbers, but more so if it were true doesnt really have much importance.

[DuskKiller713]

Maybe... maybe the divided by two goes two ways. 358/2 equals 179. Maybe Roxas was with the Org for 151 and in Ansem's computer program for 28 days. Which means that the 358/2 was split into two parts also.

It will be explained at the end of the game. It could be that maybe... in the KH2 flashbacks, there are two guys. It starts out where one guy has two keyblades and then he gives one to the other guy on the tower. Maybe it is like 358 vs 2. Like those two beat 358 Ambers, Heartless, or Nobodies before they started beating up eachother.

BTW, they were part of OrgXIII because of their coats. Why did they fight? And if Sora is the keyblade's chosen one, how could they wield them also?

Hhhhhhmmmmm......

[lionsbarrage]

U cant confuse 358 with three hundred and fifty eight. The tile is pronounced (three five eight over two days). The reference may not even be numbers at all, or it may include numbers specifying a specific word or letter in something.

[KingofheartsX]

good theory but maybe your putting too much thought into this

[DuskKiller713]

Actually, that's one of my more favorite ideas about thr title in the
respect that 5 is for the members in CoM and 8 for the ones in KH2.

3: (maybe) Riku, DiZ, Namine (or maybe one of them could be replaced by XIV)
5: The traitorous members of the Organization
8: The members that stayed loyal

As I've said before, 3'5'8/2 Days might reveal the roots of
why those five in CoM betrayed the Organization.

I think though, the title may have to do more so with a
prophecy of some sort, a coded prophecy relating to a
specific event.

That is freaky. Really makes sense. OH!!!! The coded propecy may be revealed in Coded. But I read that the meaning of 358/2 would be explained in the end of the game so maybe you don't need coded.

It could be that the 3,5,8 are eventually split into two groups, light and dark. Both groups wanting to use Sora to unlock Kingdom HEarts for their own good. But I think Diz would not be in there because isn't Diz dead? But who is XIV? Is it the girl shown in the KH secret ending? In the ending, a girl is shown with long black hair on the beach. Could it be that her heart returns and that maybe who Sora falls in love with in KHIII.

But then what does Days mean.

[lionsbarrage]

that girl in the end of the trailer ur speaking of is kairi. The 14th is a mysterious member of the org. we never saw in Kh2. Its a girl who smeohow also has a Keyblade, is refered to as Xion, and plays a huge role in all this.

[DuskKiller713]

That is my HUGE complaint with the series. Sora is the "Keyblade Wielder". They make a big deal that it chose HIM. But Riku, King Mickey, and this Xion wield them also. So how can he be the "Keyblade Wielder" if others have them? He is A Keyblade Wielder.

See, there are several groups of three. Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Sora, Donald, and Goofy. Donald, Goofy, and Mickey. Ven, Aqua, and Terra. Actually... you can condense that to Sora, Riku, and Kairi (Island); Mickey, Donald, and Goofy (Disney); and Ven, Aqua, and Terra (BBS). So 3 groups of 3.

Maybe we find out that this is all a dream and it happened OVER 2 days. That all of this, the story of the 3 groups of 3, the 5 (COM), and the other 8, all of it was a dream and happened over two days. I hope not though. If this all truns out to be a dream I'll be pissed.

[lionsbarrage]

Its not a dream, cause theres no point then, everything that happens actually happens.

BUt in a sotry thats what happens its made bigger, Sora being the only one, to having hundreds that were able to to makes it more juicy. BUt Mickey never wielded KK only star seeker and inverse KK. Having the answer to why Roxas and Riku could wield the KK is simple, but why can Xion now is another question.

[DuskKiller713]

But why could Riku? Mickey could because he found the Keyblade to the Dark Realm. Roxas ofcourse could because he is half of Sora. But I don't get why Riku could..... unless...

OMG, huge idea. Ok. Maybe Sora, Riku, and Xion are to eachother as Ven, Terra, and Aqua are to eachother. That's why they have keyblades. And... maybe Xion is Sora's new love.... idk though. Makes sense to me.

Anyway, with the name.... I give up.

[lionsbarrage]

New love, Were talking about a character never seen before, espciall to Sora.

But we already knwo why Riku could wield it, this has been a known fact since
KH1. To put it simply its because Riku was supposed to be its actual wielder, not Sora. But because of Riku's actions at the end of KH1, the keyblade decided to go with Sora instead.

[DuskKiller713]

But it had already been with Sora before Riku's actions. If it were really supposed to be Riku's, then wouldn't it have been given to Riku when they all got split up?

And anyway, why would they call Sora the CHOSEN WIELDER if he wasn't supposed to have it to begin with. It still seems flawed to call Sora the chosen keyblade wielder if he is not the only one to have them.

[lionsbarrage]

Its cause he wasnt, because Riku took off thru the dark portal the keyblade found its way to Sora, the others around him say hes chosen one only cause he had the keybalde in hand and that the keyblade chooses its master. So of course no one else would know, except maleficent for some reason knew that RIku was its intended wielder, Once Riku tried the keyblade easily went to him, but because of him fallling to darkness it left him for Sora.

This is all fact proven by Nomura sooo its up to u if u accept it or not.