Theories and kh time line.

[Arashix]

Well i've had a lot of time to think and with some new info and other rumors/theories this is what I came up with.....

Kh game time line:
Birth by sleep
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts: COM
358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kingdomhearts:Coded
Kingdom hearts 3 (undetermaned)

BBS Characters:
Terra
Ven
Aqua
Master Xehenort (sorry if typed wrong)
14th Organization member (unknown)

358/2 days Characters:
Riku (most likly but still unsure)
Roxas
Organization xiii
14th member (?)

Kh: Coded characters:
Micky
digital Sora

Xehenort info:
He was Ansem the Wise's students along with 7(?) others. xehenort experimented and turnded into 2 known forms Ansem (Heartless) and Xemnas (Nobody). We still don't know if he's still alive or not.

My Theories: These may still need more research or varifacation.

1)The new enimeis will have something to do with the mind or soul (can't remember which). They may be called the Chasers or Sombodies.

2)Xehenort may have a thrid form (like Heartless Ansem or Nobody Xemnas) possible that masked person next to master Xehenort in the seceret endings.......

3)Roxas and ven are one in the same. DISSPROVEN!!!!

4) Kingdom Hearts could be the place were all the atributes (Light, drak, ect.....) meet.

Interesting theories from around the net: (NOT MY THEORIES!!!)

1)The 14th member may be Aqua's nobody.

2)Xehenort could be Riku's dad?

3) The Enemies are connected with Darkness, Twilight, or Dawn. (by Key of Valor.)

Note: These are theories and not fact as of yet. If you found facts that disproves these please tell me. And Kh: Coded is not in the time for i'm not sure were to put it, I will also update this every once in a while to put in new theories.

[Roxas[Nobody]]

i think i enemy maybe made from cards with hearts in them symbol wise.
i believe this 3rd form is Master Xehornart

[Key of Valor]

You know, looking at this now I think something like this might make a good
sticky for new members, theories excluded. Actually, maybe theories included.

All of your theories are popular ideas that can neither be confirmed nor
disproven at this point except one refering to Ven and Roxas being the
same people. Nomura has stated that there is a key difference between
these two characters and he has yet to reveal what it is.

Also the two theories from the net are also debatable but I've never
been a fan of blood relations between any character.

Lastly there were some things in the original information you might want
to change. One being that it has not even been suggested that the 14th
Member will appear in KH:BBS and secondly you might wish to add KH:Coded
inbetween KH2 and KH3 because we currently are informed the adventures
of this title takes place after KH2.

[Arashix]

Thanks for the Coded and R and V info, and the reason I put (?) or (Uknown) next to the 14th member's name is that i'm sure sure if he/she will appear in the games. Like I said these are theories, and could change with time and new info.

[lionsbarrage]

yeah key of valor mostly spoke what iwas gonna say, and yes this sorta info deserves to be a sticky for people to look at instead of postign the same posts about this sorta stuff over and over .

[Valitrex]

Well i've had a lot of time to think and with some new info and other rumors/theories this is what I came up with.....

Kh game time line:
Birth by sleep
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts: COM
358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kingdomhearts:Coded
Kingdom hearts 3 (undetermaned)

BBS Characters:
Terra
Ven
Aqua
Master Xehenort (sorry if typed wrong)
14th Organization member (unknown)

358/2 days Characters:
Riku (most likly but still unsure)
Roxas
Organization xiii
14th member (?)

Kh: Coded characters:
Micky
digital Sora

Xehenort info:
He was Ansem the Wise's students along with 7(?) others. xehenort experimented and turnded into 2 known forms Ansem (Heartless) and Xemnas (Nobody). We still don't know if he's still alive or not.

My Theories: These may still need more research or varifacation.

1)The new enimeis will have something to do with the mind or soul (can't remember which).

2)Xehenort may have a thrid form (like Heartless Ansem or Nobody Xemnas) possible that masked person next to master Xehenort in the seceret endings.......

3)Roxas and ven are one in the same. (May be disprovrened, double check needed.)

4) THe new enemies are the Chasers, or something to do with the soul/mind.

5) Kingdom Hearts could be the place were all the atributes (Light, drak, ect.....) meet.

Interesting theories from around the net: (NOT MY THEORIES!!!)

1)The 14th member may be Aqua's nobody.

2)Xehenort could be Riku's dad?

3) The Enemies are connected with Darkness, Twilight, or Dawn. (by Key of Valor.)

Note: These are theories and not fact as of yet. If you found facts that disproves these please tell me. And Kh: Coded is not in the time for i'm not sure were to put it, I will also update this every once in a while to put in new theories.

I doubt that the fourteenth member will be in Birth by Sleep. By the way, nice theories, except for----

Xehanort- "Riku, I am your father."

Riku- "No, it's not true. Nooooooooooo!"

lol, I just had to get that out of my system.

[AnsemDiz]

yeah key of valor mostly spoke what iwas gonna say, and yes this sorta info deserves to be a sticky for people to look at instead of postign the same posts about this sorta stuff over and over .

I agree.

[lionsbarrage]

I doubt that the fourteenth member will be in Birth by Sleep. By the way, nice theories, except for----

Xehanort- "Riku, I am your father."

Riku- "No, it's not true. Nooooooooooo!"

lol, I just had to get that out of my system.

watching some star wars there ehh, ehh dont blame u, i see alot of same things between star wars and kingdom hearts. Anyways the 14th member has a high chance of being in BBS, but will see what 358/2 shows us.

[khveteranXIII]

I doubt that the fourteenth member will be in Birth by Sleep. By the way, nice theories, except for----

Xehanort- "Riku, I am your father."

Riku- "No, it's not true. Nooooooooooo!"

lol, I just had to get that out of my system.

wait, I have a better one.

Demyx-"Riku, I am your father's mother's cousin-twice-removed second roommate!"

Riku-"What's that make us?"

Demyx-"Uh....um....er....(sound of brain sizzling...then snapping)--DIE!"

Riku-"WTF?!"

[lionsbarrage]

that was ughh kinda poiintless, and u basically ruined the concept lol.

[axel(bond of flame)]

how is the 14th member in kh bbs

[lionsbarrage]

well there is no proof, however if it was Aqua then of course thats a yes, but if it turns out to be a compltely new character, her role seems to be important and may date back further than we know, quite possibly being BBS.

[Arashix]

Well the Riku and xehenort thing wasn't my idea I just found on a website and thought I might as well share. As for the 14th member, i'm not sure if she'll be in bbs (hence the question mark next to her) but I put her there anyway because I fell like she might play a slightly major role. Oh, and I just got some really interisting info from a translated Kh book on this website. Meaning that my theories might get revised, and maybe i'll think of a few new ones.

p.s Sorry about not being online for a while, I went to NYC for the week break, just got back late last night.

[asylum51]

My Theories: These may still need more research or varifacation.

1)The new enimeis will have something to do with the mind or soul (can't remember which).

2)Xehenort may have a thrid form (like Heartless Ansem or Nobody Xemnas) possible that masked person next to master Xehenort in the seceret endings.......

3)Roxas and ven are one in the same. (May be disprovrened, double check needed.)

4) THe new enemies are the Chasers, or something to do with the soul/mind.

5) Kingdom Hearts could be the place were all the atributes (Light, drak, ect.....) meet.

Interesting theories from around the net: (NOT MY THEORIES!!!)

1)The 14th member may be Aqua's nobody.

2)Xehenort could be Riku's dad?

3) The Enemies are connected with Darkness, Twilight, or Dawn. (by Key of Valor.)


1,2,4. there is light, darkness, and twilight. Hearless (darkness of the heart) are of the darkness, nobodies(body left behind) of the twilight. but we already have the third form: Somebodies(soul?), of the light.

or you could be right and like kingdom hearts, somebodies are mixes of all three. in that case the soul/mind would be of the light (and possibly a chaser) but i think that Xehanort's "Guardian" is some form of Ansem's Guardian.

3. Nomura said they are not the same, might want to edit that post.

5. can't argue with that one, makes perfect sense...

internet

1) 1. we know for sure its a girl.
2. there is a pic of her i'll edit my post with the link
3. is a possiblility b/c of the Xemnas scene with the armor

2) um, that would be a little creepy with ansem being "inside" riku and all... yeah i doubt it anyway...

3) see 1,2,4 above. but either way the "new enemies" (if any) can't be darkness or twilight we already have those, so these would be of the light.

[lionsbarrage]

just because weve seen enemies of darkness or twilight doesnt mean they have ot be of something else.

[kitsuro]

ok heres some stuff ive heard the new kh birth by sleep uses cards and is about 15 years b4 kh1 u do c riku sora kiari and every1 else grow up and very yong there r 3 story arcs 1 for each character (aqua ven and terra) to find out more info go 2 wikipedia and search kingdom hearts birth by sleep ah and theres a sweet inro vid on kingdomhearts3.net 2 watch

[lionsbarrage]

well, actually some info is right but not 100% accurate. BBS was said that the design of the gameplay would be closer to that of CoM especially since its the same team, however there is no real word on cards being used, looking at it i really dont see them.

Also it is actually 10 years set in the past, not 15. If it were 15 Sora, Kairi, andRiku would not even be born yet.

And while 3 scenarios to play through are confirmed, that being Terra and Ven. Aqua is yet to be confirmed as the 3rd playable character, while it is still unknown many do think it is Aqua.

[kitsuro]

what i meant is it takes place 15 years and towards the end of the game u see riku sora kiari and the rest growing up srry miss typing :/

[Key of Valor]

I can't really understand what you're saying?
If you mean that BBS stretches 15 years then
I'm afraid that idea is very unlikely due to how
we are already given a specific time period that
BBS occurs, which is 10 years in that past.

Where are you getting this
ridiculously sounding information?

[lionsbarrage]

Well he mentions wikipedia but im not sure where he got it, Now at one point some scens may date back further but the main BBS is set 10 years, not 15.

[kitsuro]

i heard it from this guy in japan he spoke perfect english and was really nice me and him became good friends he happened to get to go to a conference type thing and find out info he told me that it was 15 years but that info wasnt set in stone yet

[kh_master08]

wait, I have a better one.

Demyx-"Riku, I am your father's mother's cousin-twice-removed second roommate!"

Riku-"What's that make us?"

Demyx-"Uh....um....er....(sound of brain sizzling...then snapping)--DIE!"

Riku-"WTF?!"

best star wars spoof ever! I'd like to add more to this, but it'll be considered as spam:p

wait...this is spam.

[lionsbarrage]

Its like viewing the sky and someone telling u its green, when its clearly blue. As such we have already seen proof that it was 10 years in the past as far as the main story part goes, now as i did say there may be a point where some storyline may date back as far as 15 or more, but we can clearly see at what point this mianly takes place, and even Nomura admitted that. i mean no ill will by this but its just what the facts are.

[kitsuro]

this was like 6 or 7 months ago that i heard that it takes place 15 oh and some retard on anothe kh forum said it takes place 500 years prior 2 it

[lionsbarrage]

i think the timeline was already said around 6 or 7, and most people who dont look up info or research wouldnt know. I mean just by trailers people also think its in future, i know i did at first. Things could even date back even further, but not the main story anyways.

[kitsuro]

true

[Arashix]

Okay I think I got some interesting info that may be of some importance.
1) There are 4 worlds that are inbetween planes.
A Castle Oblivian (Dawn)
B Twilight Town (Twilight duh)
C Yen Sid's Tower (Light)
D World that never was (Dark)

2) ONe meathed of going to worlds is by a "Dark Corridor" and if you go through it to many times you may be completly swallowed by darkness.

3)The fact that Sora a Roxas can use the keyblade at the same time is related to xehanort's memories and has an important meaning.

That's pretty much it I guess if I forgot something or something comes up i'll tell you. Oh, and sorry for the long absence been kinda busy.

[lionsbarrage]

the 4 places u listed dont really mean towards a specific things such as light dawn or darkness, because they are all twilight, also u forgot one other which is traverse town.

On to the point really we havent had any proof of Sora and Roxas wielding the "same" keyblade at the same time.

BY this i mean up until Sora slept Roxas was wielding oblivion and oathkeeper until Sora was asleep and Roxas was in TT and stuff he was wielding KK, now he may have before than but we do not know until 358/2, even soo i doubt it really has anything to do with anything, but it sure would be a surprise.

[Arashix]

.........Realy? Can you tell me were you find your info? I woulld love to check it out some time because I think my source may be a little unreliable, that or just old.

[kitsuro]

its called analyze each scene in kh1 kh2 and com and think it through it really all makes sense

[Key of Valor]

Arashix is right though on the four woulds on the inbetween plane.
The geography of it is explained quite nicely in 'Another Report'

I think it was...

Darkness Realm
Dark Beach
World That Never Was
Castle Oblivion
Twilight Town-------(exact center)
Yensid's Tower
Light Realm

I'm quite sure though that you specified
each world's dominion correctly.

I will admit that it's odd that the translation
says that only those four are in-between.

I would have at least expected Radiant Garden
or maybe Traverse to be among the in-between.

[lionsbarrage]

Again certain reports contradict each other.

I will say that in another report it said that the realms are like on a plane, and in between those planes lie in between worlds, being twilight town, castle oblivion, yen sids tower, and the world that never was. However in other reports its also mentioned that traverse town was among them.

I dont what to say about the dark beach, or any of these worlds in fact, way i see it any of the "in between" really are not any different except for the created world that never was.

Radiant garden doesnt seem to fit though, so i can see why it was never really suggest, but maybe because it was sorta a stronghold or the first to be taken over since Xehanort was there and it was mere coincidence.