Euthanasia

[FlurryOfDancingFlames~]

What are your veiws on euthanasia?

For those who are unsure of what it means, I will give an example.

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A relative of yours has a terminal illness, they are on life support and they askyou to turn it off. You turn it off to save them from going through anymore pain.

This is euthanasia.

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I just wanted to hear your ideas as it is something which interests me, as it's a crime, however, some feel it is for the best. I don't understand how people bring themselves to make a decision like this. In my opinion, it is the right thing to do. Before you judge my opinion, I would just like to state that I think it is right, because you are granting somebody their wish, and stopping their pain. I wouldn't want to see somebody live in pain when they have little to no quality of life and are bed-ridden, and cannot do much for themselves. Stringing their life out is unnecessary if there is no chance of recovery (in my opinion.)

[VenFan]

So, it's kinda like Seymour convincing others into euthanasia. Like, when he says that the only way to save Spira is to kill Spira and it's inhabitants to end their suffering. Am I kinda right?

It's kinda weird to me. I mean, it would be easier to stop yourself from having to endure the pains of life, but you've only got one life, and a short one, at that. Why not just live it out to it's fullest until it's your time to die?

[FlurryOfDancingFlames~]

Yeah, it's along the right lines :D

[Sor@-Keyblade]

if you realy care about that person and there going in a lot of pain
i dont see that as a crime.
your just ending the pain.

[FlurryOfDancingFlames~]

It is still counted as second (Or first) degree murder though, so in the eyes of the law, it isn't the right thing to do...

[Lone Wolf]

I find that your will is your own.

As long as your not letting anyone else make the desicion for you its not actually murder. It's more like suicide.

Theres a few things you have to look at clearly though. There are people that are in so much pain, its unbearable. You just can't live life to the fullest, if you're already living it to the fullest.

Theres the chance that you might recover, but then theres the chance that you wont.

In a christian view I'll tell you its wrong, completely. Its suicide, and I can tell you from now that anyone who suicides has a direct passage to Hell. Is hell going to be worse? Oh yes, a lot worse, but then there are people who don't believe in Hell.

In a human point of view(no religous or any other type of other influence) I say its their choice. Either live the pain out and enjoy the happy moments, or end the pain right there and leave the world voluntarily.

[Sor@-Keyblade]

if you look at it a diferent way the person thats going true the pain should kill him self if he/she feels greatly.

[-RikuKH3]

So, it's kinda like Seymour convincing others into euthanasia. Like, when he says that the only way to save Spira is to kill Spira and it's inhabitants to end their suffering. Am I kinda right?

It's kinda weird to me. I mean, it would be easier to stop yourself from having to endure the pains of life, but you've only got one life, and a short one, at that. Why not just live it out to it's fullest until it's your time to die?

And how are you supposed to live out that life when you are a human vegitable and all you are capable of doing is lying in a bed?

[Yellow Flash]

I find that your will is your own.

As long as your not letting anyone else make the desicion for you its not actually murder. It's more like suicide.

Theres a few things you have to look at clearly though. There are people that are in so much pain, its unbearable. You just can't live life to the fullest, if you're already living it to the fullest.

Theres the chance that you might recover, but then theres the chance that you wont.

In a christian view I'll tell you its wrong, completely. Its suicide, and I can tell you from now that anyone who suicides has a direct passage to Hell. Is hell going to be worse? Oh yes, a lot worse, but then there are people who don't believe in Hell.

In a human point of view(no religous or any other type of other influence) I say its their choice. Either live the pain out and enjoy the happy moments, or end the pain right there and leave the world voluntarily.


Yeah as a Chirstian as well....I would say It is wrong......and besides if you are chirstian, you can pray to God to heal you......

[Kryptik]

Well it really depends on a couple things.

1.) How badly they are doing. (Physically, eternally,etc.)
2.) How bad the critical condition is.
3.) Whether or not the one making the decision is there or not. Otherwise someone else might make the decision without your consent which can be a good and bad thing at the same time.

So it really depends. I also think that people do pray but I was never all that binded with religion so I'm not going into that department.

[Miss Lockheart]

If someone asked me to euthanize them, I would have to wonder about their mental state before I could decide whether to grant them their wish. If they are not of a sound mind to make that decision, or they are a vegetable, then I couldn't do it, even though they were in pain. It wouldn't seem right, it wouldn't really be their choice to make in that state.

I can see why people with a sound mind would want to be euthanized if they are in so much pain, but it would be very hard to accept. The person's family might not agree with it at all, and might be working really hard to get that person better. That person might not even know if they mean what they say, pain can make people want to give up before they've even tried to fight (yeah, I know because I've been there).

So I really couldn't decide on this one. Perhaps if there's no other way, and the person is terminally ill anyway and just doesn't want to wait in pain for death, then maybe. But mostly I would want to find an alternative.

[Yellow Flash]

If someone asked me to euthanize them, I would have to wonder about their mental state before I could decide whether to grant them their wish. If they are not of a sound mind to make that decision, or they are a vegetable, then I couldn't do it, even though they were in pain. It wouldn't seem right, it wouldn't really be their choice to make in that state.

I can see why people with a sound mind would want to be euthanized if they are in so much pain, but it would be very hard to accept. The person's family might not agree with it at all, and might be working really hard to get that person better. That person might not even know if they mean what they say, pain can make people want to give up before they've even tried to fight (yeah, I know because I've been there).

So I really couldn't decide on this one. Perhaps if there's no other way, and the person is terminally ill anyway and just doesn't want to wait in pain for death, then maybe. But mostly I would want to find an alternative.

Well I don't acctually know what happened when I was unconious...but I know I'm not dead...(lol).so if there is a chane, I wouldn't do it...

[asylum51]

I think there's a difference between a DNR (do not resuscitate) or a premeditated decision to be taken off of life support if you become a vegetable and a lethal injection to end your life if you have cancer.

Okay

DNR- If you should die in a hospital, the doctors are not allowed to revive you, thus still dying naturally.

Vegetable On Life Support- You can decide ahead of time if you ever became a vegetable or in a coma with little to no chance of recovering, to be taken off of life support. After all, you would have been dead anyway.

Not Okay

Euthanasia- Taking a lethal injection to die, although it is a terminal illness is not okay. You are ending your life purposely, not like the two above where you die "naturally" at least. You can ask to not be revived or to be taken off of life support if you should die, but taking an injection to end your life is suicide/murder.

[Sora-Keyblade]

I'd seriously wouldn't do it, i'd rather not go to jail for a crime *Or even execution O_O* I'd rather let them suffer but i'll try and help them too, I could come and visit them everyday and have a little chat with them for a change, I could also take them to places *If I could* so they wouldn't be missing out. No one deserves to be sad, really. But if it was a critical one, they will die sooner or later. At least they'll have a wonderful time in heaven.

[-RikuKH3]

I think there's a difference between a DNR (do not resuscitate) or a premeditated decision to be taken off of life support if you become a vegetable and a lethal injection to end your life if you have cancer.

Okay

DNR- If you should die in a hospital, the doctors are not allowed to revive you, thus still dying naturally.

Vegetable On Life Support- You can decide ahead of time if you ever became a vegetable or in a coma with little to no chance of recovering, to be taken off of life support. After all, you would have been dead anyway.

Not Okay

Euthanasia- Taking a lethal injection to die, although it is a terminal illness is not okay. You are ending your life purposely, not like the two above where you die "naturally" at least. You can ask to not be revived or to be taken off of life support if you should die, but taking an injection to end your life is suicide/murder.


Go to Oregon and its perfectly legal :P

[FlurryOfDancingFlames~]

If someone asked me to euthanize them, I would have to wonder about their mental state before I could decide whether to grant them their wish. If they are not of a sound mind to make that decision, or they are a vegetable, then I couldn't do it, even though they were in pain. It wouldn't seem right, it wouldn't really be their choice to make in that state.

I can see why people with a sound mind would want to be euthanized if they are in so much pain, but it would be very hard to accept. The person's family might not agree with it at all, and might be working really hard to get that person better. That person might not even know if they mean what they say, pain can make people want to give up before they've even tried to fight (yeah, I know because I've been there).

So I really couldn't decide on this one. Perhaps if there's no other way, and the person is terminally ill anyway and just doesn't want to wait in pain for death, then maybe. But mostly I would want to find an alternative.

I agree with this. That's the point I was trying to get across in the first place. Thanks for wording it for me :)

I also agree with what other people are saying, about how they wouldn't want any other influence than the person in question in reaching the decision. I don't understand how anyone could actually bring themselves to turn off the life support though... I don't think I will ever understand.