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skidderz
02-22-2007, 05:59 PM
what kind of allies and new enemies do you guys think there will be?....i understand that the allies will have to depend on what levels there are in the actual game. but enemies..??....i wounder what kind of cool boss heartless there will be.....if heartless even exist in 3.....who knows
-skidd
Hitch
02-23-2007, 01:18 PM
Hm, enemies.
Enemies...
1)Heartless: Except this time there will be more unique and more stronger heartless. Some will return like the shadows and neons.
2)Nobodys: I still think the nobodys are still living. So there will be even more nobodys. Stronger, and more strange...
3)Souless: This is the new enemy. When a person dies the heart goes to kingdom hearts, after that whats left is the shell of the person, the nobody. Well whats left is the soul of the person. New enemy.
Villians: Well I don't have a good idea of what villians there will be in KH3 so i'll just leave it blank.
kingdom Key
02-24-2007, 10:20 AM
ya but there was a crap load of heartless but u never seen solless walking around so i dount think it will be that i think it will be the chasers
heartless_destroyer
03-02-2007, 01:52 PM
i think there will be a giant big thing that is made of heartless and nobodys combined together.ya i have no school!!!!!!!!!!random he he he
Cathedral_stowaway
04-14-2009, 04:11 AM
I just thought, that because the Heartless's signature color is black, and the Nobobdy's signature color is white, why not have a new KH enemy, relative to heartless and nobody of course, that has clear or silver as there signature color, since the evil characters refrain from using actual colors.
DarkSoldier
04-18-2009, 08:28 PM
I believe heartless will be in KH3. There's still no way to get rid of them. As long as there are darkness in people's hearts and Xehanort causing disruption heartless would never go away. There should be stronger heartless, and new forms of heartless, and so on.
Souless: This is the new enemy. When a person dies the heart goes to kingdom hearts, after that whats left is the shell of the person, the nobody. Well whats left is the soul of the person. New enemy.
This has already been confirmed in the Ansem Reports by Xehanort, and Ansem the Wise as well as 'Another Report' that if you have no soul your dead. Nobodies live due to their soul giving them life as well as their bodies giving them form. As for heartless, darkness gives them their form.
Nobodies = body and soul...not just the body.
Villians: Well I don't have a good idea of what villians there will be in KH3 so i'll just leave it blank.
Definately Xehanort.
FISHY CRACKERS
04-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Well i'm hoping for Xion, and perhaps during all this time she's recruited more Org. XIII members, but i can't much say anything until 358/2 Days.
Chrono Mizaki
04-18-2009, 08:53 PM
This has already been confirmed in the Ansem Reports by Xehanort, and Ansem the Wise as well as 'Another Report' that if you have no soul your dead. Nobodies live due to their soul giving them life as well as their bodies giving them form. As for heartless, darkness gives them their form.
Nobodies = body and soul...not just the body.
Pretty much that, so I don't get where people get Souless from.
Heart = Heartless
Body and Soul = Nobody.
Pretty much the only thing left is... Logic and Conscience, if that counts as something. I used to remember ages ago, when I was in a KH RP, I created an enemy called the 'unconscience'. Back then, I was a fellow KHtard. But it was pretty much based on Logic and Conscience. I pretty much knew Souls was for the Nobody.
Logic and Conscience = pretty much unlikely, however. It could be part of the Nobody...
Definately Xehanort.
I will scream if Xehanort comes back. Honestly, he's dead and his story is over with. To bring him back would be the worse execution to come in this series. I rather have him as a dead character who his influences still affects the world even from the grave. After all, I bet there are others who want to continue Xehanort's ideal.
Key of Valor
04-18-2009, 11:27 PM
I think Heartless will return in KH3,
but I'm not sure what to think about
when it comes to the Nobodies.
There are always fewer Nobodies created than
there are Heartless created. Heartless and Nobodies
don't seem to get along real well, and what we have
are Heartless destroying Nobodies, and Nobodies
destroying Heartless. At the end of KH2, the Nobodies
are left in a bad situation. Their leaders are all taken
down, and their Kingdom Hearts is ruined. The hearts
from their Kingdom Hearts rained down and took the
form of Heartless. These Heartless flooded the World
That Never Was, and launched a massive evasion
upon the Nobody stronghold. Seems like a great
deal of Nobodies are fated to be destroyed because
these events, perhaps even drawn near the point
of extinction.
The conclusion of the conflict on The World That
Never Was will certainly be interesting to learn,
with Maleficent, Pete, the Nobodies, and a massive
force of Heartless all jumbled in one big mess.
What ever happens there seems like play a role
in what kind of enemies we are to face in KH3.
If Nobodies are in KH3, I suspect they won't
appear that much in the game, or at least not
nearly as much as they did in KH2.
I feel that the conflict between Heartless and
Nobodies won't be in KH3., either because the
Nobodies are reduced to nothing, or because
the most powerful of KH Villains (main KH3
antagonist) rises to power and tames both
beings to act in accordance to his/her will.
As for Maleficent and Pete, I have little faith
that they could actually fend off or tame the
Heartless in TWTNW. I also doubt the series
will allow them to meet their end at that point.
Because of this, I believe the KH3 antagonist
will appear on TWTNW and tame the Heartless,
thus saving Maleficent and Pete. Then this
villain will employ the two to help with the pursuit
of his/her goals.
As for new enemies, I half expect to see the
return of the Unbirths, and/or the appearence
of a new type of enemy... but I can't imagine
new enemies being necessary for KH3. Seems
like KH3 could make do even if it primarily
incorporates the Heartless without adding
new enemies.
As for the main KH3 antagonist, I personally
feel that it won't be Master Xehanort or
Apprentice Xehanort. I sort of suspect it
of being one of the lesser known characters
from BBS. I primarily suspect the main KH3
antagonist to be the Dark Soldier.
And my final comment about enemies in KH3
is that perhaps the Door to Light had some
world changing effect on world order. It could
have potentially ended the existence of the
Heartless and Nobodies. However, for the
Heartless to meet such a subtle end seems
anticlimactic and unfitting. But if this were
true, it would create a demand for a new
enemy, and explain how Maleficent and Pete
survives on TWTNW without help. (I also
highly doubt the two would just run away,
they seemed pretty determined to stay
and fight)
lionsbarrage
04-19-2009, 12:13 AM
Heartless coming back is ghly possible, nobodies are less likely but still id imagine some being around, but as key put it nto as much as they were in KH2.
As for new enemy i do believe souls would eventually play a part if they arent already in BBS, Since ive always believed Nobodies are just the body and they dont need souls, the stating of usch things in the reports may say so but they have been wrong or only hypothesis on some subject so i wouldnt put it pass NOmura to actually make souls more important.
As for villans well. Honestly any form of Xehanort coming back is possible but i deem unlikely, he doesnt have to come back and i believe a new enemy would arise or maybe even the oldest one such as DS.
Keyblade_Knight
04-19-2009, 02:52 AM
I think and hope that they add the unbirths return even though we have only seen little of them in previews for Ven and Terra's gameplay they seem as a cool enemy kinda like a mix of heartless and nobodies. Also having DS as the main villian would be cool instead of getting Xehanort again.
Mickey: "Look! Its Xehanort back in some kind of new form!"
Sora: "Didn't we distroy him twice?"
Riku: "And his heartless is trapped inside me anyway."
Mickey: "Ya but this is KH3 Xehanort, thus making him differnt."
Riku & Sora: .......
DarkSoldier
04-19-2009, 04:09 AM
As for new enemy i do believe souls would eventually play a part if they arent already in BBS, Since ive always believed Nobodies are just the body and they dont need souls, the stating of usch things in the reports may say so but they have been wrong or only hypothesis on some subject so i wouldnt put it pass NOmura to actually make souls more important.
A soul would be important to the story as well as in the next game but it wouldn't make sense for a villain to be "souless" now it has been explained by Nomura and confirmed in reports that nobody = body and soul. Without a soul, your easily dead. If the nobody just has a body what gets them to live as well as Organization XIII? A nobody doesn't have a heart and a body is just a body to give them a form. How would Organization XIII live, speak, etc? It wouldn't make much sense. The soul gives you life.
As for villans well. Honestly any form of Xehanort coming back is possible but i deem unlikely, he doesnt have to come back and i believe a new enemy would arise or maybe even the oldest one such as DS.
Dark Soldier can be part of Apprentice Xehanort so its still considered a shape or form of him.
lionsbarrage
04-19-2009, 06:09 AM
A soul would be important to the story as well as in the next game but it wouldn't make sense for a villain to be "souless" now it has been explained by Nomura and confirmed in reports that nobody = body and soul. Without a soul, your easily dead. If the nobody just has a body what gets them to live as well as Organization XIII? A nobody doesn't have a heart and a body is just a body to give them a form. How would Organization XIII live, speak, etc? It wouldn't make much sense. The soul gives you life.
Depends who the villan is. And again as ive explained the reports arent always accurate and at the same time it may be essentail for actual humans, Ohter things are able to live without souls such as heartless, so nobodies may also be able to as well. Its not as simple as without a soul ur dead im sry, nothing in this game is that simple without a geunine confirmation which there really isnt besides erports and they like i have said been known to not always be 100% accurate. Nomura himself hasnt even confirmed that a nobody has to have a soul to live, u wont find those words or similar stuff, again this argument weve already went thru. So again how would the org. live? their nobodies no different so what i say that nobodies may not need souls would apply to them as well of course.
Dark Soldier can be part of Apprentice Xehanort so its still considered a shape or form of him.
Btw u misqouted the wrong person. Unless DS is Xehanort himself i wouldnt say so at all even if he was a part. Again DS is just an example only cause hes the only other villan outside of disney villans we seen, that could stay alive or come back. Anyone else they prolly just be new. yet at the same time connected in a way.
DarkSoldier
04-25-2009, 03:34 PM
Depends who the villan is. And again as ive explained the reports arent always accurate and at the same time it may be essentail for actual humans, Ohter things are able to live without souls such as heartless, so nobodies may also be able to as well. Its not as simple as without a soul ur dead im sry, nothing in this game is that simple without a geunine confirmation which there really isnt besides erports and they like i have said been known to not always be 100% accurate. Nomura himself hasnt even confirmed that a nobody has to have a soul to live, u wont find those words or similar stuff, again this argument weve already went thru. So again how would the org. live? their nobodies no different so what i say that nobodies may not need souls would apply to them as well of course.
Heartless live on because of the heart.....
Nobodies do not have hearts, therefore its the body that gives them a form while the soul gives them life. Also, Nomura probably already has confirmed this but when it was already stated by Ansem the Wise I believe this is all the proof that we need. Not everything in Ansem's Reports were hypothesis. That's clearly false.
shadowaxel
04-25-2009, 09:24 PM
time will only tell
lionsbarrage
04-26-2009, 12:13 AM
Heartless live on because of the heart.....
Nobodies do not have hearts, therefore its the body that gives them a form while the soul gives them life. Also, Nomura probably already has confirmed this but when it was already stated by Ansem the Wise I believe this is all the proof that we need. Not everything in Ansem's Reports were hypothesis. That's clearly false.
Heartless are formed cause of the heart, but that doesnt give mean they alive because of just the heart. Saying this means that the heart is also what is supposed to support life yet the reports say its the soul, so which is it? That is why the suggestion of a soul needing to live is indeed wrong in a universal sense. What supports the life of 1 type of being may not for another. Its proof right there for a heartless and nbodies are just as different from a regular person or somebody. Nomura has never confirmed this type of thing, but i think also its because no one has really asked in an interview. When Ansem or Xehanort question where does the body and soul go, its pretty vague, since to me they assume they go together, but thats all assumptions. I dont think theres proof either way that they contain a soul or not, they never have stated for the cases of a nobody if they can or cannot exist without a soul, unlike how they said it for a regular being.
Edlynn_xD
04-26-2009, 11:34 PM
hmmmm dont know
good question....
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