IGN comment on Square Enix closed mega theater TGS 2008

[Twilight_Riku]

It seems to me that IGN have never played a kingdom hearts game in their life they have got most of the characters mixed up like when talking about Ventus they call him Roxas. If you can get past all of IGN's mistakes whilst reading this then you will have some idea of what the trailers showed.

Kingdom Hearts -- New Titles, New Concepts
First was a series of trailers for several mobile Kingdom Hearts games. The key title, Avatar, has a unique, minimalist art style and appears to be based on community features. Other mini-games featuring Kingdom Hearts characters will be arriving in Japan this fall.

Next, Kingdom Hearts: Coded was previewed. The mobile phone game features a mix of 2D and 3D action and includes several enemies that we encountered during our hands-on with the DS game, 358/2 Days.

A long, somber trailer for 358/2 Days that felt more like a Japanese soap opera than a videogame was shown next. Two girls, a blonde and a brunette, were having a serious discussion. The brunette wore one of those fancy black cloaks that Mickey and his pals wear. Mickey was in the trailer, too, talking to some blindfolded dude in a forest. Finally some gameplay footage was shown of several combat scenarios. The multiplayer component was also demonstrated with four different DS screens running at once, one for each player. The tail end of the trailer revealed some of the story's conflict, as the brunette stole Roxas' keyblade and everyone got pretty pissed about it. 358/2 Days is scheduled for a February 2009 release in Japan.

The last Kingdom Hearts game shown was Birth By Sleep for the PSP. This apparently has a lot more Disney in it than 358/2 Days. The trailer opened with Roxas lying injured on the ground. Glimpses of Cinderella and Snow White were shown, then some gameplay of combat and Roxas using a giant ball of twine as transportation. The evil witch from Sleeping Beauty appears to be a primary protagonist, as she appeared in a lot of the footage and finally transformed into her dragon form.

The 3rd Birthday
Next up was the mysterious Parasite Eve game for PSP. Called The 3rd Birthday, the trailer began by showing footage of the CGI cut scenes from the first Parasite Eve. Cut to Parasite's protagonist, Aya, sitting on a street corner in the snow. A portal opens in the sky and a giant, shape shifting monster emerges. Aya puts a couple revolver rounds into it, to no effect. The 3rd Birthday will be s third-person shooter.

The familiar Final Fantasy theme crept up, introducing five games in the universe.

Final Fantasy: Dissidia
One by one, the various characters of this fighting game were introduced. Lots of in-game fights were shown interspersed with shots of the battle map. The trailer switched to CG sequences to introduce Cloud, Sephiroth, and a horned demon named Chaos. The villains of the game emerged impressively from an erupting volcano, followed by the fire god Bahamut. Pretty cool stuff.

Next some CGI footage of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete was shown, followed by…

Final Fantasy XIII
The camera panned over a jungle environment, following several flying animals. Eventually we settled on a girl standing at the edge of a cliff. Lots of impressive CGI followed showing airships, an angelic woman playing the harp (Shiva?), and military forces tearing down some sort of mystical tower.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII
Japanese narration mentioned "crystals" several times. The CGI was presented in a very stylized, filtered way like old war propaganda films. A Nazi-like military regime was shown coming to order. Airships launched an attack on a city below. Cut to gameplay footage of battle with several large monsters. It looks like Agito will include some card battle elements, as several CG shots of characters tossing cards at enemies were shown. The trailer ended with a rebel army rising up against the oppressive military regime.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII
The last trailer shown featured maybe Square Enix's best CG work, yet. It began by explaining this is a "fantasy based on reality." Cut to lots of talky talky between four friends with Japanese dude haircuts and a blonde woman. The four pals jump in a car and drive across a wasteland, past toppled telephone polls, only to find the highway is eventually demolished and leads into a body of water. Some fast action sequences are interspersed throughout. No gameplay was shown, and no voice acting was included -- only subtitles. The trailer concluded by pointing out that, unlike Final Fantasy XIII, Versus is a PlayStation 3 exclusive.

Source: http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/917/917952p1.html

[Sora-Keyblade]

That author is a numb nut. o_o

[Kairi]

Thanks for all the news info you posted in this section today :)

I'll add them to the stickies.

[Roxas[Nobody]]

Thnx for the warning. lol

[vanilla bear]

I stopped listening to IGN after they scored KH2 low.. They used to be credible, but now they're so focused on the mainstream stuff they don't have any writers decent enough to work with games like Kingdom Hearts, regardless of how well they do.

[Chrono Mizaki]

I stopped listening to IGN after they scored KH2 low.. They used to be credible, but now they're so focused on the mainstream stuff they don't have any writers decent enough to work with games like Kingdom Hearts, regardless of how well they do.

I actually agreed with their review. Heck, Even Game Central gave Kingdom Hearts 2 a 6/10

In reality, it's a mindless button mashing game which has a story that take itself too serious sometimes with horrible results, magic that is useless in the game, etc. At first, I was like o_O. But then overtime as I played the game so many months later because of the gap between the USA and Europe release, then I realised.

Around 6 - 7 out of 10 is the best score KH could have. Any higher and the reviewers are on crack. At least IGN have been truthful. Just note that all the other reviews can read like a bad game, but give it a good score. That is because most of the time, they are funded by the company through adverts.

If they gave it a bad score, don't you think the company would pull out the adverts or not support it?

[lionsbarrage]

I actually agreed with their review. Heck, Even Game Central gave Kingdom Hearts 2 a 6/10

In reality, it's a mindless button mashing game which has a story that take itself too serious sometimes with horrible results, magic that is useless in the game, etc. At first, I was like o_O. But then overtime as I played the game so many months later because of the gap between the USA and Europe release, then I realised.

Around 6 - 7 out of 10 is the best score KH could have. Any higher and the reviewers are on crack. At least IGN have been truthful. Just note that all the other reviews can read like a bad game, but give it a good score. That is because most of the time, they are funded by the company through adverts.

If they gave it a bad score, don't you think the company would pull out the adverts or not support it?

That like those reviews are very biased opinions based on really just dislike of the game and hardly not truth. Every game out there really is a button masher, i mean take a look at games here in america games that seem to be constantly be made are first person shooter, war games or somethign with guns, and they are all button masher. Heck thats what games are based on moving the joystick and mashing a button.

Magic in KH1 was sucky cept for cure but in KH2 becuase of magic having its own stat and 2 different magics it was not useless at all, it had its momements foir use, espcially reflect, and thats an understatement. Truth is al ot companies or so can give biased opinions, wether they like the game or not, but what they base they scores on is very horrendous.

Thats why if i am looking to get a new game or rent and see how good or bad it may be i listen to the fans that play it and write their own reviews and comments. and see what the majority really says. Of course only from the people that are into that genre of games, otherwise people who are into shooting games or sport games may not like rpg games.

[vanilla bear]

That like those reviews are very biased opinions based on really just dislike of the game and hardly not truth. Every game out there really is a button masher, i mean take a look at games here in america games that seem to be constantly be made are first person shooter, war games or somethign with guns, and they are all button masher. Heck thats what games are based on moving the joystick and mashing a button.

Magic in KH1 was sucky cept for cure but in KH2 becuase of magic having its own stat and 2 different magics it was not useless at all, it had its momements foir use, espcially reflect, and thats an understatement. Truth is al ot companies or so can give biased opinions, wether they like the game or not, but what they base they scores on is very horrendous.

Thats why if i am looking to get a new game or rent and see how good or bad it may be i listen to the fans that play it and write their own reviews and comments. and see what the majority really says. Of course only from the people that are into that genre of games, otherwise people who are into shooting games or sport games may not like rpg games.


Exactly. Every fighting game like that relies on heavy button-mashing. That's the term IGN used constantly to describe KH2. Besides the gameplay, it was very story-driven and that's what made me play it multiple times. I was more into that one than the first game just because of the faster action. I love both games regardless.

[Chrono Mizaki]

That like those reviews are very biased opinions based on really just dislike of the game and hardly not truth. Every game out there really is a button masher, i mean take a look at games here in america games that seem to be constantly be made are first person shooter, war games or somethign with guns, and they are all button masher. Heck thats what games are based on moving the joystick and mashing a button.


Really... I know it's the reviewer's opinion. But even then, they can't be that biased just because they don't like it =P

Not every game is a button masher. If you just mash button mindelessly on games such as Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry, 9/10 you will die. I know, I tried and it kills you instantly.

Kingdom Hearts is different, especially 2. You just 'Mash X'. You 'can' use magic, but you aren't forced to... or isn't worth it. Like the reviews I read, you can mash your way through the game, even 'closing' your eyes and you'll still have success. Again, I tried.

First Person Shooters are generic most of the time anyway. But you can't randomly shoot everywhere or you will die. In my opinion and let's face it, people, but KH2 offers no challenge and is a very tedious, crappy game that's highly inferior to KH1. It went like Devil May Cry 2 did, Style over Substance. You can do all these awesome moves, but it relies on 'X'.

And KH2 was excellent at its time, but it aged very very badly.

Magic in KH1 was sucky cept for cure but in KH2 becuase of magic having its own stat and 2 different magics it was not useless at all

Errm... the magic diversity problem has been solved. But that wasn't the problem. It was basically the fact that bosses like Ursala and the Trickmaster 'forced' you to use magic (whether you're level 9 or 99). In KH2, you can mash your way through the series without 'magic', the only thing you need is 'Cure'. Reflect is actually needed in the fight against sephiroth. But once you level up more, then reflect is useless =P

When they 'release' KH3 at some point. What they need is to make 'magic' useful, especially against enemies and bosses that can't be destroyed by physical means.

Thats why if i am looking to get a new game or rent and see how good or bad it may be i listen to the fans that play it and write their own reviews and comments. and see what the majority really says. Of course only from the people that are into that genre of games, otherwise people who are into shooting games or sport games may not like rpg games.

Heh... That can swing both ways.

The fantards could be going all "DIS GAME IS DA BEST GAME EVA" etc etc. I am going to counter that with my review once I get my hands on 358/2 days and BBS (and trust me, I will be honest. If I have to bash it, I will and enjoy the screaming fans. But hey, I'm honest)

But it could be great. If the fans 'we' have love the game, but still point out all the flaws and such, then it could turn out great. Sometimes (NO... wait. MOST OF THE TIME), fan reviews turn out a lot worse than the game reviews.


Exactly. Every fighting game like that relies on heavy button-mashing. That's the term IGN used constantly to describe KH2. Besides the gameplay, it was very story-driven and that's what made me play it multiple times. I was more into that one than the first game just because of the faster action. I love both games regardless

The story driven thing is basically like Marmite to me. Some people hate it, some will love it (I hate it for the fact that the Org members were useless).

That's fighting games though. And even then, 'they' have combos. You have to memorize them. You can't use it over and over again, because at some point, the opponent will find a flaw to that move and attack them, rendering that move useless.

KH2... You just equip moves and voila, you mash and attack.

KH1 and COM have better challenges and 'have' that magic that KH lost ages ago. And that is my sum up. I won't debate back so that this topic can risked getting locked. B

[CAP]

GOD!! this article is retarded.

"the girl is wearing one of those cloaks that mickey and the others wear".
lmao. you mean organization 13 you dumb ass. GOD!.

[lionsbarrage]

Really... I know it's the reviewer's opinion. But even then, they can't be that biased just because they don't like it =P

Not every game is a button masher. If you just mash button mindelessly on games such as Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry, 9/10 you will die. I know, I tried and it kills you instantly.

Kingdom Hearts is different, especially 2. You just 'Mash X'. You 'can' use magic, but you aren't forced to... or isn't worth it. Like the reviews I read, you can mash your way through the game, even 'closing' your eyes and you'll still have success. Again, I tried.

First Person Shooters are generic most of the time anyway. But you can't randomly shoot everywhere or you will die. In my opinion and let's face it, people, but KH2 offers no challenge and is a very tedious, crappy game that's highly inferior to KH1. It went like Devil May Cry 2 did, Style over Substance. You can do all these awesome moves, but it relies on 'X'.

And KH2 was excellent at its time, but it aged very very badly.[/QUOTE

I have played both ninja gaiden and devil may cry, all 4 to be exact and while i didnt like ninja i do love devil may cry and it is indeed a button masher as well, may not seem that way at the beginning but as u lvl or get stronger it indeed does.

First person shooting is button mashing all u do is aim, like i said its a combo of joystick and a button, and KH2 is not just blindfold and win that i assure u. Kh2 was a bit too much user friendly and the challenge was lost but it still not that simple and espcially KH2FM. KH2 did not age badly, but it did lack some of the magic KH1 had throught the game.

[QUOTE]Errm... the magic diversity problem has been solved. But that wasn't the problem. It was basically the fact that bosses like Ursala and the Trickmaster 'forced' you to use magic (whether you're level 9 or 99). In KH2, you can mash your way through the series without 'magic', the only thing you need is 'Cure'. Reflect is actually needed in the fight against sephiroth. But once you level up more, then reflect is useless =P

When they 'release' KH3 at some point. What they need is to make 'magic' useful, especially against enemies and bosses that can't be destroyed by physical means.

Trickmaster never forced u to use magic at all. In KH2 while its true u did not need magic but magic had its uses way over just plan attacking. and reflect was also needed in the fight against xaldin as well. In any case Magic was a good thing to have at points, it not have been needed but it makes some situations alot easier, if u know how to use them.

This isnt about what is useful its about playstyle. Thats what u dont get. Some people may like to go and attack or some may like to cast spells and such, its diversity, just like other games. People can choose how to play.

Heh... That can swing both ways.

The fantards could be going all "DIS GAME IS DA BEST GAME EVA" etc etc. I am going to counter that with my review once I get my hands on 358/2 days and BBS (and trust me, I will be honest. If I have to bash it, I will and enjoy the screaming fans. But hey, I'm honest)

But it could be great. If the fans 'we' have love the game, but still point out all the flaws and such, then it could turn out great. Sometimes (NO... wait. MOST OF THE TIME), fan reviews turn out a lot worse than the game reviews.

NO it doesnt swing both ways, cause as i said before i look over a ton of reviews and comments, because 1 review isnt going to cut it cause yeha they can be biased on their decision. I look for the good and the bad that they write, and i know people are different and it will reflect what they write. Some may say nothing is wrong, and some will say that they're is something wrong. The problem with the gaming sites is thae fact its only 1 review and it based on things not directly related to the gameplay and stuff.

The story driven thing is basically like Marmite to me. Some people hate it, some will love it (I hate it for the fact that the Org members were useless).

That's fighting games though. And even then, 'they' have combos. You have to memorize them. You can't use it over and over again, because at some point, the opponent will find a flaw to that move and attack them, rendering that move useless.

KH2... You just equip moves and voila, you mash and attack.

KH1 and COM have better challenges and 'have' that magic that KH lost ages ago. And that is my sum up. I won't debate back so that this topic can risked getting locked. B
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In all games that are not against a human player its all the same for the computer depeding on the difficulty u choose. At some point the player has memorzied the pattern of the opponent and know what to do at which point. In SHort it means u can do the same thing over and over and win to the point of never taking a hit. Its that simple for any fighting game really or in KH.

KH1 and KH2 challenges were about the same Kh2 being little easier for trash. in CoM its different with the card playstle but even then it can be incredibly easy once uknow how.

The point of this whole thing is KH2 in many was a good game, some like it better than KH1, some like it worse, some like it the same. But to base of wether u like it or not off stupid things like calling that game a button masher just doesnt sit well as an execuse.