Alice in Wonderland

[HappyHeartless]

Well... Yeah, I'll let the recently released picture speak for itself!

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x77/HappyHeartless/Hmhmhm.jpg


Any thoughts? ^^


INFO:
It's being directed by Tim Burton (as the colorful and abstract clothing and make up should suggest)! Mia Wasikowska (a fairly unknown young actress) has the role of Alice, Anne Hathaway (from the picture) is the White Queen, Helena Bonham Carter (also from the picture) portrays the Queen of Hearts, or, the Red Queen, while Johnny Depp has the role of the Mad Hatter. Guess I don't need to say that he is also in the picture!
Alan Rickman (Snape) and Sir Christopher Lee (Saruman, Count Dooku, several Tim Burton movies) are also among the mentionable cast, as the Caterpillar and the Jabberwock. Stephen Fry (You've almost certainly seen or heard this guy before, even though he haven't had many lead roles) will be portraying the Cheshire Cat, which will be hilarious : >


Oh and yeah, the person on the right in the picture is not Alice but the White Queen!

[Sora-Keyblade]

Why is the queen of hearts NOT fat? D:

[ZombiGirl]

Cool O.O Crack for the eyes...pretty colours...

[Kairi19]

theyre creepy looking with all of that make-up except for alice(if its her)

[ForgottenMemory]

I am throughly excited.
:]

[Dano The Mano]

What the crap!?>!?!?!?!THATS SCARY!!!!!!!!

[Yoyocool]

I am throughly excited.
:]

Idk, as much as i like the dark and strange works; i prefer it to have a nice, child like tone as in the original two novels. Even though now, The two books are more likely to be read by Middle and High School students. I know i was in high school when i read the two but i digress.

Anyways, who's directing the movie and any name cast revealed yet?

[Dano The Mano]

THat show.... is gonna give kids nightmares.

[soralover101]

so. . . these are for a new movie???

[HappyHeartless]

Idk, as much as i like the dark and strange works; i prefer it to have a nice, child like tone as in the original two novels. Even though now, The two books are more likely to be read by Middle and High School students. I know i was in high school when i read the two but i digress.

Anyways, who's directing the movie and any name cast revealed yet?

I'd love to just direct you onwards to IMDB, but what the hey.

It's being directed by Tim Burton (as the colorful and abstract clothing and make up should suggest)! Mia Wasikowska (a fairly unknown young actress) plays the role of Alice, Anne Hathaway (from the picture) plays the White Queen, Helena Bonham Carter (also from the picture) pays the Queen of Hearts, or, the Red Queen, while Johnny Depp has the role of the Mad Hatter. Guess I don't need to say that he is also in the picture!
Alan Rickman (Snape) and Sir Christopher Lee (Saruman, Count Dooku, several Tim Burton movies) are also among the mentionable cast, as the Caterpillar and the Jabberwock. Stephen Fry (You've almost certainly seen or heard this guy before, even though he haven't had many lead roles) will be portraying the Cheshire Cat, which will be hilarious : >


Oh and yeah, the person on the right in the picture is not Alice but the White Queen!
This: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1985859/ is Alice.

[ForgottenMemory]

Idk, as much as i like the dark and strange works; i prefer it to have a nice, child like tone as in the original two novels. Even though now, The two books are more likely to be read by Middle and High School students. I know i was in high school when i read the two but i digress.

Anyways, who's directing the movie and any name cast revealed yet?

The books - which I have read - are quite dark. Disney long ago put a very childish spin on the original stories by Lewis Caroll.
Caroll, if you know anything about him, was actually a very strange man.

I am excited for this out of curiosity; I want to see what Burton is capable of.

[Jess]

Looks absolutely beautiful.

[soralover101]

woah. so weird. i cannot wait for this to come out. i love tim burton's movies!!!

[RXS]

I think it looks exciting and inviting :]

[Edlynn_xD]

agh!!! i can't wat for the movie to come out, I love jhonny depp and tim burtons wife!!!
:D:D:D:D:D

[King-Mickey]

holy crap. Johnny Depp is the mad hatter???

[Edlynn_xD]

duh ;D

[King-Mickey]

thats awesome..

[Edlynn_xD]

dang skippy ^_^
I can't wait! :D

[King-Mickey]

who is the one in the white dress? That better not be alice...

[Edlynn_xD]

not sure...kinda looks like anne hathaway, im assumng its her...alicce is the only blonde in the whole movie :0

[King-Mickey]

i knew it was anne hathaway by my god thats a terrible look for alice. Just terrible :O

[Edlynn_xD]

i agree

[King-Mickey]

like omg... lol

[Dano The Mano]

I thought it was her too.Shes looks like a freak!

[Edlynn_xD]

dont get me wrong, shes a good actress, just not her thing...

[Mr.Data]

Lol i want to see this movie lol

[Edlynn_xD]

that makes all of us ;D

[Dano The Mano]

Eww i dont wanna see it!It loks scart and weird!

[Edlynn_xD]

if its directed by tim burton i wanna see it

[Dano The Mano]

Tim Burton is weird!And that dude doesnt look like Johny!

[Edlynn_xD]

actually i think jhonny is playing the cat....and that is jhonny depp :]

[Dano The Mano]

Johnny Depp is awesome!

[DEAD PIXEL!]

that's a bit scary to look at.

[Edlynn_xD]

Agreed! xD

[Dano The Mano]

Im never gonna see it when it comes out!Too scary!It will freak me out!Even tho im already freaking out!ROSIHNGLA:ANHGPFIOASNHEI:~~!!!!!!!!!

[Edlynn_xD]

dude its the same movie only different peopel ;D

[Dano The Mano]

The other one scared me too!

[Edlynn_xD]

You mean the animated one?

[Dano The Mano]

Yes!It was weird and freaky!

[Edlynn_xD]

....how is it creepy?

[Dano The Mano]

It just is!Its random weird and ..... weird!

[Edlynn_xD]

egh, either way i want to see it
Jhonny Depp equals Epicness!

[HappyHeartless]

No, Anne Hathaway is not Alice, she is the "White Queen". Alice is portrayed by a fairly unknown actress, who is on the "who to watch" list for the future.

Since nobody seems to have noticed the info post I made, I'll just add it to the first one, so if you want information, check the first post ;o

[Tidus dude]

the instant I saw those pictures I was like "Tim Burton all the way xD"

I am SOOOO gonna see this movie. OMG!

[Edlynn_xD]

the instant I saw those pictures I was like "Tim Burton all the way xD"

I am SOOOO gonna see this movie. OMG!

agreed ;D

[Shadow's Destiny 42]

I wanna see it so bad.
I love Alice in Wonderland.
<3

[ZombiGirl]

Me too ^^ the law of averages say 'tim+johnny= awesome'
The stills so far look beautiful; is it wrong to drool over cinematography xD

[King-Mickey]

Who Doesnt love alice in wonderland???

Haha one of the most fastanating stories around. Also funny disney movie :D.

[IndieJocky]

Me too ^^ the law of averages say 'tim+johnny= awesome'
The stills so far look beautiful; is it wrong to drool over cinematography xD

Yes, Tim+Johnny does equal awesome. I mean it is written in the equation of the universe. XD
I actually saw this a month or so ago... But just the picture of Depp. Anne Hathaway is amazing and so is Helen. <3

[SacredRiku]

I heard about this ever since The Dark Knight came out, I'm only interested because Johnny Depp is in it.

[ForgottenMemory]

*MAJOR REVIVAL*

The official teaser trailer for the film has been released!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiPR6kA4_iU

Thoughts?

[IndieJocky]

D:
Embedding not working for it.

BUT LIKE, I saw this earlier today and I was like OMG!!
And Johnny Depp XDD
"Alice you're late. You naught naughty girl."

[shadowdra126]

IT LOOKS AMAZING
I'M SO EXCITED FOR IT!!!!

[ForgottenMemory]

Fixed that, Indie. Yeah, embedded is disabled.
But who else is excited? What do you think? Does it look promising?

[Kairi {S}]

I Think It Looks Amazing.
I Cant Wait!

[shadowdra126]

The artwork looks amazing
the CG looks awesome
the character designs r awesome
and I love the casting
this movie will be great

[ForgottenMemory]

Does anyone know who the character is from 0:53-0:55? I'm looking, and I'm really curious now because I can't tell.

EDIT:

WHOAWHOAWHOA. Sudden thought here:
Do you think this will effect the Alice In Wonderland of future KH games? :O

[IndieJocky]

I THINK that's Crispin Glover but it says that he the Knave of Hearts... And that's obviously the Knave of Clubs >.>

But it looks alot like him...

[Kairi {S}]

Does anyone know who the character is from 0:53-0:55? I'm looking, and I'm really curious now because I can't tell.

EDIT:

WHOAWHOAWHOA. Sudden thought here:
Do you think this will effect the Alice In Wonderland of future KH games? :O

Thats What I Though As Well.
Cause Its Tim Burton Right?
They Used Nightmare Before Xmas So You Never No

[Edlynn_xD]

*MAJOR REVIVAL*

The official teaser trailer for the film has been released!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiPR6kA4_iU

Thoughts?

beautiful :]

[Sasuke]

beautiful :]

I'm creeped out by that quote.
I came in here to say the EXACT same thing.
-----------------

Beautiful :]

[SacredRiku]

Johnny Depp is awesome.

[-RikuKH3]

Looks good and all, but then i read the script for it. Meh.

[lonbilly]

I lol'd at Helena. Her head is ridiculous and awesome!!!
I wanna see it already though.
I've been wanting to see it for the last two years
Eeeeee! (>W<)
(I want Johnny's outfit =3 )

[ForgottenMemory]

I THINK that's Crispin Glover but it says that he the Knave of Hearts... And that's obviously the Knave of Clubs >.>

But it looks alot like him...

Well then, if that is him, he looks freaking awesome. (Actually, when I first saw it, I thought: Edward Scissor Hands!)

"Alice; you're terribly late, you know. Naughty!"

[Tidus dude]

That teaser was incredible. ._.

I like want to see it RIGHT NOW XD

and... that laugh. ._.

[Helix: The True Hero]

Anne Hathaway!?

UGH, my least-favorite female actor. [aside from Vin Diesel]

[King-Mickey]

Anne Hathaway!?

UGH, my least-favorite female actor. [aside from Vin Diesel]

lol :P :P. So yeah ive been watching [reviews. Looks interesting but if it matches that stupid enchanted movie or soemthign im goign to freak...

[ForgottenMemory]

Anne Hathaway!?

UGH, my least-favorite female actor. [aside from Vin Diesel]

I like her. T__________T

Anway. I predict that a mad rush of costume potential for halloween this year is being born as we speak.

Hmm. Now that I look again, I think it is the Knave of Hearts.
I think he's the one originally put on trial for stealing the queen's tarts, yes?
http://i27.tinypic.com/r7qiaw.png

[shadowdra126]

The casting in awesome

[IndieJocky]

The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts,

All on a summer day:

The Knave of Hearts, he stole those tarts,

And took them quite away!

Why yes FM.

And yeah I like Anne Hathaway too D:

[King-Mickey]

True. Are they going have a chesire rabbit and the cards Lol!

jokes

[shadowdra126]

careds yes
but its a whitre rabbit and a Cherise cat

[King-Mickey]

haha those cards are annoyign tho :(

[Emily the Penguin]

*pauses...* TIM BURTON WHERE?!!? cool!

[Edlynn_xD]

you know turns out that this movie is a part 2 to the previous one

says a source O_o

[King-Mickey]

Previous one? You mean like the animated one?

[Edlynn_xD]

Previous one? You mean like the animated one?

yes indeedy

[King-Mickey]

Oh wow. Either that source is lying for popularity or this is gonna be one very interesting movie lol.

[Edlynn_xD]

I;m planning on seeing it in the imax...in 3-D

xD

[IndieJocky]

you know turns out that this movie is a part 2 to the previous one

says a source O_o

Actuallyyy,
It's set like 10 years after her first visit. So yeah I guess it is sort-of. But it's going to be more dark and cool. :]

[King-Mickey]

Actuallyyy,
It's set like 10 years after her first visit. So yeah I guess it is sort-of. But it's going to be more dark and cool. :]

Ooh haha. Well i loved alice in wonderland was i kid so this shud be great :-D

[shadowdra126]

really?
i thought it was just a remake...
i dont want to see her return
thats kinda lame
i mean ill still see it in imax 3d
but...i wanted a whole new movie

[IndieJocky]

She doesn't remember anything though. So good?
STILL,
IT LOOKS BLOODY BRILLIANT!

[shadowdra126]

WAIT?!
why doesnt she remember anything

[Edlynn_xD]

WAIT?!
why doesnt she remember anything

Mabye she forgot everything when she woke up
...or its been so long that she forgets it all

but i think everyone remembers Alice..

[Rejected Oblivion]

..... But... how can she go back if it was just a dream in the first place? O.o

Does she fall asleep again? lol

[Emily the Penguin]

this will be cool. When is it coming out? And what is it rated?

[Edlynn_xD]

this will be cool. When is it coming out? And what is it rated?

Its coming out March 5, 2010 :]
And i think its G...not sure

[Emily the Penguin]

Its coming out March 5, 2010 :]
And i think its G...not sure

hmm... cool. But Tim Burton making something rated G? Wow.

[Misuzu]

I'm sure it'll be at least PG.

But I can't wait for this.

[Emily the Penguin]

I'm sure it'll be at least PG.

But I can't wait for this.

that makes more sense. It's gonna be awesome!

[Dorian_Grey_Da_12th]

cant wait for this i love tim burton movies :D just hope it isnt like the last alice in wonderland with real people that white rabbit freaked me out

[shadowdra126]

its gonna be great

[Edlynn_xD]

cant wait for this i love tim burton movies :D just hope it isnt like the last alice in wonderland with real people that white rabbit freaked me out

there is real people....and the rabbit O_o

[tmp_riku90]

omahh gah, looks awesome! I love tim burton movies. Can't wait to see this one.

[-RikuKH3]

I like her. T__________T

Anway. I predict that a mad rush of costume potential for halloween this year is being born as we speak.

Hmm. Now that I look again, I think it is the Knave of Hearts.
I think he's the one originally put on trial for stealing the queen's tarts, yes?
http://i27.tinypic.com/r7qiaw.png

Considering that is Crispin Glover, you would be...CORRECT.

[ForgottenMemory]

Considering that is Crispin Glover, you would be...CORRECT.

HIS COSTUME IS SO EXCITING.
I am really in love with the style of it all. Even if the movie turns out not to be good (which I still doubt, but who knows?) I still think that this is artisticly a success already.

[Emily the Penguin]

I don't know if this has been posted or not... but are you people ready? I've got the official trailer!! But for some reason, it wouldn't show up, so here's a link:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VHRz1S_kYI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbroadwayworld%2Ecom%2Fvideoplay% 2Ecfm%3Fcolid%3D61249&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VHRz1S_kYI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbroadwayworld%2Ecom%2Fvideoplay% 2Ecfm%3Fcolid%3D61249&feature=player_embedded)

(look! The rabbit isn't creepy and human!)

[Edlynn_xD]

I don't know if this has been posted or not... but are you people ready? I've got the official trailer!! But for some reason, it wouldn't show up, so here's a link:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VHRz1S_kYI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbroadwayworld%2Ecom%2Fvideoplay% 2Ecfm%3Fcolid%3D61249&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VHRz1S_kYI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbroadwayworld%2Ecom%2Fvideoplay% 2Ecfm%3Fcolid%3D61249&feature=player_embedded)

(look! The rabbit isn't creepy and human!)

The person above you already posted it dude xD

[Emily the Penguin]

I didn't see any trailer or link above me.... ha ha ha! I had a feeling I would be too late! XD

[bofosho]

I'll wait for the reviews on this one, but I think Johnny Depp will make this movie worth watching. He's one of the best actors ever IMO.

[Misuzu]

Finally watched the trailer (Haha, I liked it before the trailer I liked it for the poster) and I must say, it looks very intresting and mysterious. I love the Chesire Cat even more now.

[ShikaX]

I love that trailer,
Aand,
i have to say,
The Chesire cat looks so cute in this!!
I could just coudle up with it forever and ever... until it turns invisible and I find myself staring at a very freaky smile.. O_O

And my mom says Johnny Depp's outfit in this creeps her out...
personally, I LOVE all the colors and stuff, I love the whole costume.

[Skyline]

Looks alright, I know Johnny Depp will do an awesome job, as usual.

[waitin4KH3]

While the idea of a recreation isn't terrible, I'm just growing tired of Tim Burton leaching off of Jonny Depp's fame. Honestly, if this guy made something without Depp in it, would it be as well accepted? I doubt it. Tim Burton, try getting your own career, and stop relying on Jonny Depp to sell your work.

[HappyHeartless]

While the idea of a recreation isn't terrible, I'm just growing tired of Tim Burton leaching off of Jonny Depp's fame. Honestly, if this guy made something without Depp in it, would it be as well accepted? I doubt it. Tim Burton, try getting your own career, and stop relying on Jonny Depp to sell your work.

He uses Johnny Depp because he's an amazing actor, not because of his fame... Tim Burton's most amazing works don't even have Depp in them, and he was amazing before he even did a single movie with Johnny Depp! If there's someone you should complain about always teaming up with Burton, it's Danny Elfman, but they're also awesome together so no one in their right mind really complains ^^

Tim Burton has waaay more creds than Johnny Depp in the movie world, anyways..

[waitin4KH3]

He uses Johnny Depp because he's an amazing actor, not because of his fame... Tim Burton's most amazing works don't even have Depp in them, and he was amazing before he even did a single movie with Johnny Depp! If there's someone you should complain about always teaming up with Burton, it's Danny Elfman, but they're also awesome together so no one in their right mind really complains ^^

Please enlighten me. I don't recall any movie he did before Edward Scissorhands. I don't discredit Depp, because he's a great actor and has amazing range. But, while Depp can go and do multiple projects between his collabs with Burton, it seems Burton waits until Depp is free before he does another movie. Burton's may have talent as a director, but lets face it, Depp is what makes these freak shows work.

[Edlynn_xD]

I love that trailer,
Aand,
i have to say,
The Chesire cat looks so cute in this!!
I could just coudle up with it forever and ever... until it turns invisible and I find myself staring at a very freaky smile.. O_O

And my mom says Johnny Depp's outfit in this creeps her out...
personally, I LOVE all the colors and stuff, I love the whole costume.

dude...cat looks creepy O_o

[HappyHeartless]

The Nightmare Before Christmas is still, and has always been one of his best. And as for the movies before Johnny Depp, he directed both Batman and Beetle juice. Now I don't know if you've seen these (which you shoud have) but both of them show the typical Tim Burton style, they're both amazing in the Tim Burton way, and they helped earn him his fame more than Johnny Depp ever did.
And come on, Depp isn't the one who makes it works! Micheal Keaton was never one of my favorite actors, but he did _THE_ best role of his life as Beetlejuice who (oh so surprisingly) is a major freak.

[waitin4KH3]

The Nightmare Before Christmas is still, and has always been one of his best. And as for the movies before Johnny Depp, he directed both Batman and Beetle juice. Now I don't know if you've seen these (which you shoud have) but both of them show the typical Tim Burton style, they're both amazing in the Tim Burton way, and they helped earn him his fame more than Johnny Depp ever did.
And come on, Depp isn't the one who makes it works! Micheal Keaton was never one of my favorite actors, but he did _THE_ best role of his life as Beetlejuice who (oh so surprisingly) is a major freak.

Ah, you got me there. TNBC is definately great work, and I can't say enough about Beetlejuice. The original Batman, I always thought was the best. Well still was the best until Dark Knight was released. So, you've got a point, but I still think that he relys on Depp too much at this point to make his movies work.

[HappyHeartless]

Indeed he does use him a lot. But we really can't deny it, the result is usually amazing D:

[waitin4KH3]

Indeed he does use him a lot. But we really can't deny it, the result is usually amazing D:

Point noted. Guess twisted minds think alike.

[Yoyocool]

The books - which I have read - are quite dark. Disney long ago put a very childish spin on the original stories by Lewis Caroll.
Caroll, if you know anything about him, was actually a very strange man.

I am excited for this out of curiosity; I want to see what Burton is capable of.

I would beg to differ lol ^^ Then again it's been so long since i read them. Still, i think they were not that dark and that just me looking at the surface.

Anyways; i think i'll pass on the movie tim burton or not. I don't care much also for the disney version ^^ btw.

[Sasuke]

I would beg to differ lol ^^ Then again it's been so long since i read them. Still, i think they were not that dark and that just me looking at the surface.

Anyways; i think i'll pass on the movie tim burton or not. I don't care much also for the disney version ^^ btw.

Dude, ALL of those types of original books were Dark or had something kind of disturbing moment.

In the real Little Mermaid, the Little Mermaid dies.
Etc Etc.

It's like nursery rhymes, they're all sick and twisted if you give enough thought to them.

Ring around the rosie - They all drop dead.
Humpty Dumpty - He falls off a ledge.
The Little Old Lady Who Lives In A Shoe - Child Beater.

[Yoyocool]

Dude, ALL of those types of original books were Dark or had something kind of disturbing moment.

In the real Little Mermaid, the Little Mermaid dies.
Etc Etc.

It's like nursery rhymes, they're all sick and twisted if you give enough thought to them.

Ring around the rosie - They all drop dead.
Humpty Dumpty - He falls off a ledge.
The Little Old Lady Who Lives In A Shoe - Child Beater.

According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_around_the_rosie

In the United Kingdom, Ireland, South Africa, and Australia, it is usually sung: Ring a-ring o' roses,
A pocketful of posies.
a-tissue!, a-tissue!.
We all fall down.

Other versions Of it in the U.K.:

Picking up the roses,
picking up the roses,
Atishoo!, Atishoo!
We all jump up.
Picking up the daises,
picking up the daises,
Atishoo!, Atishoo!
We all jump up.
Ashes in the water,
Ashes in the sea,
We all jump up
With a one-two-three.
The King has sent his daughter,
To fetch a pail of water.
ah-tishoo, ah-tishoo.
We all fall down.
The bird up on the steeple,
Sits high above the people.
ah-tishoo, ah-tishoo.
We all fall down.
The cows are in the meadow,
Eating buttercups,
ah-tishoo, ah-tishoo.
they all jump up.
Fishes in the water,
Fishes in the sea,
We all jump up,
With a one, two, three!
Down at the bottom of the deep blue sea,
How many fishes can you see,
We all jump up,
With a one, two, three!
Sitting at the bottom of the deep blue sea,
Catching fishes, for my tea!
We all jump up,
With a one, two, three!

Plague interpretation

Many have associated the poem with the Great Plague of London in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of bubonic plague in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before World War II make no mention of this;[15] by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in Britain. Peter and Iona Opie remark: "The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, posies of herbs were carried as protection, sneezing was a final fatal symptom , and 'all fall down' was exactly what happened."[16][17] The line Ashes, Ashes in alternative versions of the rhyme is claimed to refer variously to cremation of the bodies, the burning of victims' houses, or blackening of their skin, and the theory has been adapted to be applied to other versions of the rhyme, or other plagues.[18] In its various forms, the interpretation has entered into popular culture and has been used elsewhere to make oblique reference to the plague.[19] (For 'hidden meaning' in other nursery rhymes see Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary, Humpty Dumpty, Jack Be Nimble, Little Jack Horner, Cock Robin and Meanings of nursery rhymes.)
Folklore scholars regard the theory as baseless for several reasons:
the late appearance of the explanation means that it has no tradition, only the value of its content;[15]
the symptoms described do not fit especially well with the Great Plague;[17][20]
the great variety of forms make it unlikely that the modern form is the most ancient one, and the words on which the interpretation are based are not found in many of the earliest records of the rhyme (see above);[18][21]
European and 19th century versions of the rhyme suggest that this 'fall' was not a literal falling down, but a curtsy or other form of bending movement that was common in other dramatic singing games.[22]

In other words; we americans bastardize the original rhyme lol and furthermore is not a dark theme rhyme Sasuke :p

As for Humpty Dumpty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty

The Rhyme:

The most common text is:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses,
And all the king's men,
Couldn't put Humpty together again.[1]
The rhyme does not actually state that Humpty Dumpty is an egg.[2]
In its first full printed form in 1810, the rhyme is posed as a riddle and exploits for misdirection the fact that "humpty dumpty" was also eighteenth-century reduplicative slang for a short and clumsy person[2]; the riddle being that, whereas a clumsy person falling off a wall, depending on the height of the wall, would probably not be irreparably damaged, an egg would be.[1] The rhyme is no longer posed as a riddle, since the answer is now so well known. Similar riddles have been recorded by folklorists in other languages, such as Boule Boule in French, or Lille Trille in Swedish & Norwegian; though none is as widely known as Humpty Dumpty is in English.[1]

It was originally a riddle :p XD So, it seems you are wrong again ^^

The last one for all we know was probably correct though.

Still, the Lewis Carrol wrote the stories for the children of his friends and ministry. I doubt that it could be all that dark coming from a clergy men lol.

[Sasuke]

According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_around_the_rosie

In the United Kingdom, Ireland, South Africa, and Australia, it is usually sung: Ring a-ring o' roses,
A pocketful of posies.
a-tissue!, a-tissue!.
We all fall down.

Other versions Of it in the U.K.:

Picking up the roses,
picking up the roses,
Atishoo!, Atishoo!
We all jump up.
Picking up the daises,
picking up the daises,
Atishoo!, Atishoo!
We all jump up.
Ashes in the water,
Ashes in the sea,
We all jump up
With a one-two-three.
The King has sent his daughter,
To fetch a pail of water.
ah-tishoo, ah-tishoo.
We all fall down.
The bird up on the steeple,
Sits high above the people.
ah-tishoo, ah-tishoo.
We all fall down.
The cows are in the meadow,
Eating buttercups,
ah-tishoo, ah-tishoo.
they all jump up.
Fishes in the water,
Fishes in the sea,
We all jump up,
With a one, two, three!
Down at the bottom of the deep blue sea,
How many fishes can you see,
We all jump up,
With a one, two, three!
Sitting at the bottom of the deep blue sea,
Catching fishes, for my tea!
We all jump up,
With a one, two, three!

Plague interpretation

Many have associated the poem with the Great Plague of London in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of bubonic plague in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before World War II make no mention of this;[15] by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in Britain. Peter and Iona Opie remark: "The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, posies of herbs were carried as protection, sneezing was a final fatal symptom , and 'all fall down' was exactly what happened."[16][17] The line Ashes, Ashes in alternative versions of the rhyme is claimed to refer variously to cremation of the bodies, the burning of victims' houses, or blackening of their skin, and the theory has been adapted to be applied to other versions of the rhyme, or other plagues.[18] In its various forms, the interpretation has entered into popular culture and has been used elsewhere to make oblique reference to the plague.[19] (For 'hidden meaning' in other nursery rhymes see Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary, Humpty Dumpty, Jack Be Nimble, Little Jack Horner, Cock Robin and Meanings of nursery rhymes.)
Folklore scholars regard the theory as baseless for several reasons:
the late appearance of the explanation means that it has no tradition, only the value of its content;[15]
the symptoms described do not fit especially well with the Great Plague;[17][20]
the great variety of forms make it unlikely that the modern form is the most ancient one, and the words on which the interpretation are based are not found in many of the earliest records of the rhyme (see above);[18][21]
European and 19th century versions of the rhyme suggest that this 'fall' was not a literal falling down, but a curtsy or other form of bending movement that was common in other dramatic singing games.[22]

In other words; we americans bastardize the original rhyme lol and furthermore is not a dark theme rhyme Sasuke :p

As for Humpty Dumpty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty

The Rhyme:

The most common text is:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses,
And all the king's men,
Couldn't put Humpty together again.[1]
The rhyme does not actually state that Humpty Dumpty is an egg.[2]
In its first full printed form in 1810, the rhyme is posed as a riddle and exploits for misdirection the fact that "humpty dumpty" was also eighteenth-century reduplicative slang for a short and clumsy person[2]; the riddle being that, whereas a clumsy person falling off a wall, depending on the height of the wall, would probably not be irreparably damaged, an egg would be.[1] The rhyme is no longer posed as a riddle, since the answer is now so well known. Similar riddles have been recorded by folklorists in other languages, such as Boule Boule in French, or Lille Trille in Swedish & Norwegian; though none is as widely known as Humpty Dumpty is in English.[1]

It was originally a riddle :p XD So, it seems you are wrong again ^^

The last one for all we know was probably correct though.

Still, the Lewis Carrol wrote the stories for the children of his friends and ministry. I doubt that it could be all that dark coming from a clergy men lol.

Never said it was an egg.
Never said it was the plague.
Also, you said alternate version.
Those are another persons interpretation, did the original inventor of the rhyme them self give the true meaning? Sure it may not match the plague directly. But METAPHORICALLY speaking it would match imo.

So if my interpretation differs, I have my reasons, and as you see am not wrong. Good try though :P. Never defy what I have to say, I don't fall without a good fight.

I see you had nothing to say about the Little Mermaid... and let me rephrase something. Maybe it isn't dark, but definitely quite sadistic, regardless of what the true meaning is imo.

And I strongly suggest that if you are going to find facts, do not use wikipedia., you should know why. :/

Also, I'm not saying all that info is wrong either.

[khorganizationfan4]

I think it looks cool :D
I love Tim Burton films and I definitely want to see this.

[Sora]

It was a good movie, worth the watch.

[Shadow matt]

Yeeep I agree with Sora, I went and saw it yesterday and saw that the critics who said the movie sucked was oh so wrong

[ForgottenMemory]

I found this to be a clever, enjoyable story. Sure, it wasn't groundbreaking or crazily hyped by critics, but I liked it.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2my3eb7.jpg

I mean, who wasn't curious to see Burton's take on this?

[war0706]

I found this to be a clever, enjoyable story. Sure, it wasn't groundbreaking or crazily hyped by critics, but I liked it.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2my3eb7.jpg

I mean, who wasn't curious to see Burton's take on this?

Ya, that part made me chuckle.

I saw it a while ago, and I loved it!!!
Especially how Tim Burton had given it a real storyline and not just a girl going to some random world and doing absolutely nothing... :oooo:

[NicoleChristine]

Just got home from seeing this actually. I rather enjoyed it, a lot.

[Angel Aerith]

It was creepily entertaining. Quite impressed with Burton's first movie that wasn't entirely animated.

[ForgottenMemory]

It was creepily entertaining. Quite impressed with Burton's first movie that wasn't entirely animated.

Have you forgotten Sweeney Todd? Edward Scissorhands? Charlie and The Chocolate Factory? Batman? Planet of The Apes? Or how about Sleepy Hollow, or Big Fish?

Point being, he's done an enormous amount of work that isn't entirely animated. So I've no idea what you're talking about. :confused:

[shadowlink]

Have you forgotten Sweeney Todd? Edward Scissorhands? Charlie and The Chocolate Factory? Batman? Planet of The Apes? Or how about Sleepy Hollow, or Big Fish?

This is also a list of very awesome films :P

[Larxene]

I really liked this movie. However, the White Queen really angered me
with her hand motions. Mein Gott.

[Angel Aerith]

Have you forgotten Sweeney Todd? Edward Scissorhands? Charlie and The Chocolate Factory? Batman? Planet of The Apes? Or how about Sleepy Hollow, or Big Fish?

Point being, he's done an enormous amount of work that isn't entirely animated. So I've no idea what you're talking about. :confused:

Aha, I'm sorry that was my friend xD She had nooo idea Burton had other movies >_>

I quite enjoyed Sweeny Todd, Sleepy Hollow and Edward Scissorhands. All of which contained Johnny Depp <3