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silverchains
12-27-2006, 08:18 PM
heck, i still havent figured it out and does it have anything to do with the keyblades?

Xehan
12-27-2006, 08:20 PM
It's called Dive to the Heart. We don't know who the voice is though. There's no sound.

silverchains
12-27-2006, 08:30 PM
do you think it will have more of a part in kh3?

Xehan
12-27-2006, 09:33 PM
Yup. I mean, they can't end it without explaining the mysteries, right?

silverchains
12-27-2006, 09:53 PM
what exactly is the door to the light( sorry if im going off topic) but that voice kept saying to sora" you are the one who will open the door to the light." so when he did, what happened?:confused: :confused: :confused:

Riku
12-27-2006, 09:57 PM
I think it was the "Door of Darkness to the Light", so it was the door to Kingdom Hearts at the end of Kingdom Hearts I. Sora indirectly opened it by weakening Xehanort's Heartless (As Ansem). He thought that Kingdom Hearts would give him more power but instead it destroyed him. Something like that lol

silverchains
12-27-2006, 10:02 PM
but i meant the the door at the end of KH2( sorry if i wasnt clear.);) im just tossing this around because they havent fully explained these things and maybe they will be part of the storyline.;)

Berry187
12-27-2006, 10:08 PM
Do u mean the one that Sora & Riku go through(wen there in the world of Darkness<-- is that what it's called)???

if so didnt Riku say's it was Sora's heart

Unkown-Aelix
12-27-2006, 10:14 PM
I dont think that we're supposed to know.

As for the voice, dont we all hear voices? I know I do, but thats just me :D
Actually, in KH1 when the voice is talking and Sora is in the Secret Place (when you find the third mushroom) Sora sees one of the Orginization Members.
Then at the door right before Sora faces off with "Ansem" (still in KH1) he hears the voice right before he opens it.

Then, at teh end of KH2 when sora is about to open the door, there IS NO VOICE!!!!!! I think the voice was one of the Unkowns, but we dont know who they are yet. Or maybe they (like mickey) doned one of the cloaks of teh Unkowns.

ANd if you dont know who the "Unkowns" are, im not going to tell you.

silverchains
12-27-2006, 10:15 PM
yes and i didnt know he said that. new here.:)(whoops just realized it was riku from the game your talking about. and i didnt know he meant his heart.)

Riku
12-27-2006, 10:15 PM
Riku and Mickey are on the Dark side of the door. Sora, Donald and Goofy are on the Light side.

Question: In the ending, Riku and the King are on the other side of the door. Why is that?

Nomura: As far as the King is concerned, he was on the other side from the beginning. He disappeared because he went to the world on the other side in order to find one of the two keys. There, he has his own adventure in the same way as Sora. As for Riku: his body stolen by Ansem, his heart did not remain in this world. The other side of the door is, just as it appears, darkness. So Riku's heart went to the world on the other side, that is to say just as Ansem was saying at the end, the world of darkness. Thus, when Ansem disappears and Riku returns to his original body, he is in the world of darkness.

Question: Well then, when Riku has returned to his own body, why doesn't he come back to the world on this side?

Nomura: That's another thing I've been asked by lots of people, but the answer is actually written in the World's Prison computer message. It is implied there that only darkness can pass through that door. Riku and the King are not creatures of darkness, so they can't come out through that door.

The voices in Sora's head in KH1 and in Riku's in Chain of Memories are apparently DiZ (Ansem the Wise)

Unkown-Aelix
12-27-2006, 10:20 PM
The voices in Sora's head in KH1 and in Riku's in Chain of Memories are apparently DiZ (Ansem the Wise)

that would explain why there is no voice at the end of KH1, beacuase DiZ blew up.........

he he remember when we thought that DiZ was "Ansem"(Xehanort)? We got it right that it was Ansem but it wasnt the right Ansem!!!!!! he he he.

Xehan
12-28-2006, 02:43 AM
You lost me. And I strongly think it wasn't Diz, how could he give a Keyblade when held none?

Riku
12-28-2006, 04:28 AM
Riku was the original owner of Sora's Keyblade and passed it on to him.

Question: About Riku being the rightful owner of the Keyblade - why is it that Sora had the Keyblade first?

Nomura: That part is also a bit vague. In the Destiny Islands when Riku is swallowed by the darkness, there's a sparkle of light, and next comes the scene where Sora first gets the Keyblade, right? In my setting, the darkness wrapping itself around those two is the darkness of Riku's heart. At the moment when Sora enters that darkness, the light you can see is the light of the heart. Sora, trying to help Riku, struggling in the darkness, touches that light and temporarily the Keyblade goes to Sora.

As for Riku's keyblade I still don't know how he got it. Some people are saying it was from Xehanort's Heartless, but I don't know. If you play through the entirity of Chain of Memories, Ansem the Wise (as DiZ) reveals himself as the one talking to Riku.

Heart of sorrow
12-28-2006, 03:19 PM
But wait do you think dive to the heart could be a part of kingdom hearts?
just a thought:)

Riku
12-28-2006, 07:12 PM
Then, at teh end of KH2 when sora is about to open the door, there IS NO VOICE!!!!!!

The voice was Ansem the Wise (as DiZ). As he was destroyed in the World That Never Was, there was no voice anymore.

But wait do you think dive to the heart could be a part of kingdom hearts?
just a thought:)

It's sung in Japanese but I could swear it says "Where's the Key? Where's the Key? There's the key. There's the key." lol

Xehan
12-28-2006, 07:23 PM
But the only time that DiZ was a voice was with Riku. Because before that he was in a void. The nothingness. So he couldn't have been the voice. Plus, HE CAN'T GIVE KEYBLADES. And one more thing:

There is a voice after DiZ dies. Before you enter Kingdom Hearts, the last battle. A voice says that "Here is the beginning of the end of your journey."

So DiZ isn't the voice.

Riku
12-28-2006, 07:27 PM
But the only time that DiZ was a voice was with Riku. Because before that he was in a void. The nothingness. So he couldn't have been the voice.

Ansem the Wise did exist before that or he couldn't have done his experiments.

There is a voice after DiZ dies. Before you enter Kingdom Hearts, the last battle. A voice says that "Here is the beginning of the end of your journey."

So DiZ isn't the voice.

Probably true which would mean DiZ isn't the voice for Sora. If it's not though I have no idea who it could possibly be unless it's someone we haven't been introduced to yet.

Xehan
12-28-2006, 07:32 PM
Wait, I thought that when KH1 began, DiZ was in the void because Xehanort came to Sora in the beginning and was already spirit. This meant that those experiments happened a bit before KH1, which means DiZ was already in the void. I think.

P.S. DiZ found Riku because Riku had also ended up in the void after KH1. But we have no evidence stating that DiZ had talked to him before. Although he first recognized it as Xehanort's heartless.

Riku
12-28-2006, 07:44 PM
Hmm, Xehanort sent Kairi in the first place, chosen in Ansem Report 11. Ansem Report 1 was the only one written by Ansem the Wise himself. So presumably DiZ made it into the void (if he actually did), sometime during the writings of Ansem Reports 2 to 11.

Ansem Report 11

In opening the door that stores a world's hearts, the wall around that world is broken down. We see this as a shooting star. Through this, I have been able to understand the reason why the material known as Gummi Blocks has the ability to allow travel to other worlds.

The cause of a world's wall collapsing is the appearance of the Heartless, but finding a world's door takes time. And robbing a world of its heart is a similar case.

If the door has been closed by the key known as the Keyblade, you probably cannot reach that world's heart again. Before the one with the Keyblade appears in this world, I must take measures to do something.

Supposing that there is a close relationship between the Princesses and the Keyblade, it seems likely that they will resonate with each other...

I have chosen one special girl. I do not know if she possesses a power like that of the Princesses. But, there is a chance, and this is an experiment. She may lead me to the place where the one holding the key is...

I shall send her off to the ocean of other worlds.

Question: Right then, we'd like to ask you some questions about that improved story. First, was Kairi coming to Destiny Islands fate, or was it just coincidence?

Nomura: It was both. It's not shown in this game, and it's a delicate issue whether I can call this a living setting, but anyway Kairi was sent out from Hollow Bastion by Ansem's hand. And the reason why Ansem sent her was to find the Keyblade. There was actually evidence of that in the jail at the End of the World. Ansem thought that girls who are princesses would be sure to make it to the place of the Keyblade. So Kairi coming to the place with Sora and Riku was both chance, and also fate.

Carl
12-29-2006, 08:01 PM
maybe the voice is the oringinal holder of the keyblade that sora has

Unkown-Aelix
12-30-2006, 04:51 PM
You people say that "DiZ cant give out Keyblades like Willy Wonka and Chocolate" wha wha wha. Well, whered you get that? HUH?! If you remeber, its because of Ansem the Wise doing his experiments in the first place that this whole freking thing happend. I think that Xemnas says that too. Ansem started off with some experiments, but then saw where they were going and tried to stop them, but Xehanort and some others went a head and did them anyway. Ansem da Wise was the one who brought back the Keyblade, so whos to say that he didnt have any, arrrggg whats the word? its on the tip of my tounge! he didnt have any........infulence in where and to who the Keyblades went. Also, some one said some thing like
When DiZ exploded, there was teh same voice, so it couldnt have been DiZ

well, I'm sure that you know in fantasy land (usually in movies) that right after someone dies/explodes they are saying somthing, and that after they die/explode there "Lingering Spirit" says somthing usefull to the sypathetic hero. That would explain that DiZ is the voice.

he he DiZ is the voice inside of Riku and Sora's head!!!!! ha ha ha i would make people go crazy if i was the voice in peoples heads! :D :) :D

Carl
12-30-2006, 06:51 PM
but this is not a movie though

Crazyman
12-30-2006, 10:12 PM
DIdnt Mickey bring about the finding or ressurection of the Keyblade?

Carl
12-30-2006, 11:52 PM
no, i think it was ansem the real one and Xehanort