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Riku in the Dawn
01-01-2007, 12:53 AM
did anyone else notice in the kh2 secret ending that all the "chasers", or armoured figures, each were carrying 2 keyblades. idk if its been posted before, so dont criticize me cause im new here, but those 2 keyblades to each person could probably mean something. maybe that wach one is essentially stronger than the original 3 [sora,riku,and kairi] because each can weild 2, or something, idk.
tell me what u think...

oneless
01-01-2007, 12:57 AM
what do u mean they were carrying two im pretty sure on one of the rikus sigs u can see there only carrying 1 unless u mean that they get the other keyblades that are found on the ground

Riku in the Dawn
01-01-2007, 01:25 AM
what do u mean they were carrying two im pretty sure on one of the rikus sigs u can see there only carrying 1 unless u mean that they get the other keyblades that are found on the ground

yeah thats what im talking about they all have 1 originally, and then they pick up the 3 individual ones in the ground.

Alien
01-01-2007, 01:45 AM
yeah these knights (or chasers as some believe), are certainly more powerful beings, im sure they are able to weild 2 keyblades with ease.

but the keyblades they chose could mean they are somehow linked with this person, or similar to them in some way.

Riku in the Dawn
01-01-2007, 01:50 AM
yeah these knights (or chasers as some believe), are certainly more powerful beings, im sure they are able to weild 2 keyblades with ease.

but the keyblades they chose could mean they are somehow linked with this person, or similar to them in some way.

yeah i believe that too. before i realized that they ended up holding 2 in the teaser trailer i thought they would essentially be weaker than the 3 original [sora,riku, and kairi] characters, but would put up a way bigger fight than any of them could.
maybe the fact that they did end up weilding 2 keyblades could mean that in the game when u play as them [if they do end up being playable, which im sure they will] you will have the power of 2 keyblades at a time from the beginning. which is beyond awesome!!

Alien
01-01-2007, 02:00 AM
i always thought they were stronger than the original three, they just look all professional with golden armor and keyblade, but in the end i think they would be beaten by sora and the others if it comes down to a battle (only because if sora ends up dead, that kinda ruins the game).

i dont think you would be able to weild 2 at the start, that would make it a bit too easy, but maybe they will set it up so u can use 2 for short periods of time (like a spell or timed ability). but being able or unable to play as knights hasnt been revealed yet.

Riku in the Dawn
01-01-2007, 02:06 AM
yeah nothing big has really been revealed except some few key facts.
true if u do kill sora there goes the story, but the stronger im talking about will be like strength and defense wise in points liek sora in the game level one will be liek str 15 and def 10 and one of the armoured figures level one also would be liek str 30 def 20 [ the numbers are a little exaggerated but im just trying to point something out]
but if they are that strong and are able to weild 2 keyblades from the beginning, wether spell or because theyre allowed to by item slots, they look like theyre going to be good replacements for playing with sora mainly.

also idk if it has crossed ur mind, but i dont think donald and goofy will be playable or controlable, they will be there to give advice or characters like leon and cloud or yuffi and tifa. either way theyll be in it but not playable or controlable.

Alien
01-01-2007, 02:14 AM
yeah they will definately be stronger points wise, which isnt neccessarily a good thing, unless they are fighting stronger enemies, sure owning the nobodies and heartless is fun, but after a while it can become repetative, a challenge is always good.

omg, im going to miss goofy. he was usefull for attracting the heartless away from me, and notorious for dying. but that means kairi and riku, or maybe even the king could be taking their place, which will be new and most likely alot of fun.

Riku in the Dawn
01-01-2007, 02:29 AM
yupp to make it better, i guess they had to make cuts. i really hope the trinity for sora is sora riku and kairi, since u never really get them as a trinity except when u fight with riku at the end of kh2.
maybe you will get to play with donald and goofy in the trinity, but my thoughts is that they probably wont be in the trinity, itll be kool to have a new trinity like i said including riku and kairi or riku and the king. or even kooler cloud and leon. i always wanted that one.
but like i said if theyre going to make kh3 over the top since i mean it only cameout no more than like 8-9 months ago and theres this much speculations and rumors for a 3. so to make it better, make a cut or 2, wether major or minor.
i am going to miss donald and goofy if theyre not playable, since donald would cure me when id need it the most and was to into the battle to care, and goofy running around was funny.

Shadow of Light
01-01-2007, 02:35 AM
yupp to make it better, i guess they had to make cuts. i really hope the trinity for sora is sora riku and kairi, since u never really get them as a trinity except when u fight with riku at the end of kh2.
maybe you will get to play with donald and goofy in the trinity, but my thoughts is that they probably wont be in the trinity, itll be kool to have a new trinity like i said including riku and kairi or riku and the king. or even kooler cloud and leon. i always wanted that one.
but like i said if theyre going to make kh3 over the top since i mean it only cameout no more than like 8-9 months ago and theres this much speculations and rumors for a 3. so to make it better, make a cut or 2, wether major or minor.
i am going to miss donald and goofy if theyre not playable, since donald would cure me when id need it the most and was to into the battle to care, and goofy running around was funny.
i heard that was sora last with donald and goofy they agree to go on one more journey with each other

Riku in the Dawn
01-01-2007, 02:37 AM
i heard that was sora last with donald and goofy they agree to go on one more journey with each other

really??
i wouldnt be surprised.
whered you hear this?

Shadow of Light
01-01-2007, 02:38 AM
if sora not going to with be donald and goofy are they be with the king

Shadow of Light
01-01-2007, 02:42 AM
really??
i wouldnt be surprised.
whered you hear this?

i was stating what sora was said at the beginnig of game when the king save them from the nobodies but i hope they spilt up i mean it just want be right

Shadow of Light
01-01-2007, 02:45 AM
i was stating what sora was said at the beginnig of game when the king save them from the nobodies but i hope they spilt up i mean it just want be right

sorrryyy!!!! i was thinking about something else if they team up with the king that be awesome beside i kind figure if sora not with them they be with the king

Alien
01-01-2007, 03:40 AM
shadow_of_light please try to summarise ur posts, and edit them if u have more to say and nobody else has posted already. i kno ur new and im not yelling, it just means u wont be accused of double posting that way.

_Axel_
01-01-2007, 03:54 AM
Uhh guyz i just wanna point out that most ppl think that this is the distant past SO either they are actually weaker than sora or more likley they had some sort of unmatched skill that was lost in the keyblade war, which would explain why they seem so much more powerful.

Riku in the Dawn
01-01-2007, 08:17 AM
Uhh guyz i just wanna point out that most ppl think that this is the distant past SO either they are actually weaker than sora or more likley they had some sort of unmatched skill that was lost in the keyblade war, which would explain why they seem so much more powerful.

Thats what im thinking that kh3 is before the kh timeline, BUT i doubt they're weaker, especially with what i originally said that they were each weilding 2 keyblades, and i believe that to weild 2 u have to be either pretty powerful or no stranger to fighting. either way i think that the new characters will feel stronger than sora. but time will tell, patience is a virtue, we must wait to see what square ends up doing.

vanilla bear
01-02-2007, 11:17 PM
kh3 can't be before the original kh timeline. at the end of kh2 we see sora getting the letter from the king, so obviously he's gonna have a part in this next game. that would completely contradict the idea that kh3 will be set in the past unless that secret ending with the 3 armored knights was just a flashback..

The Real keyblade Master
01-02-2007, 11:47 PM
or they wont do kh3 and do another game thats not a sequel. They probably will continue it after that game

_Axel_
01-02-2007, 11:50 PM
They could even leave it for a KH4 or it could just be a friendly 'hello' and they may not act on it at all! Altho i doubt the 2nd option, it is square after all.

Riku in the Dawn
01-03-2007, 04:08 AM
i think with all thats been left unsaid and the some what confusing quotes in the trailer for kh3, there will have to be a fill in game like CoM to answer some questions and maybe use kh3 as an entire flashback game....but who knows

Redmemory87
01-03-2007, 04:20 AM
true to all the above...

but i do have a question... Kairi has no idea where she came from what if the chasers wer actually Sora and Kairi and Riku in a parrelle universe ..hear me out you see the ship dissapear behind one of the chasers... didnt that also happen to the "fruit" on the beach in the beggining of kh2??

Redmemory87
01-03-2007, 04:24 AM
sorry for posting again but another light in my head went off...

DIdnt the secret ending of kh also was like completely "fast forwarded" it didnt look like anything we had ever seen before more...futuristic... well with the armour of the "chasers" isnt this even more futuristic...because all this desert stuff looks like stuff has died and the keyblade war with all its little keyblades creating the crossroads could be fallen soldiers weapons and the "chasers" could have found the LEADING keyblades..like those who were leading the battle... against darkness...

Riku in the Dawn
01-03-2007, 04:43 AM
sorry for posting again but another light in my head went off...

DIdnt the secret ending of kh also was like completely "fast forwarded" it didnt look like anything we had ever seen before more...futuristic... well with the armour of the "chasers" isnt this even more futuristic...because all this desert stuff looks like stuff has died and the keyblade war with all its little keyblades creating the crossroads could be fallen soldiers weapons and the "chasers" could have found the LEADING keyblades..like those who were leading the battle... against darkness...

possibly but i do remember that there was a cutscene of kairis grandmother talking about a war, idk if it was fictional to empahsize a poitn or real to do the same, but i think itll all be a flashback to that war or actually in the past or maybe possiblky a futuristic war dealing with the relatives of the 3.
and kairi is from hallow bastion/radiant garden. nomoura said it in an interview, its in another thread, but i knwo i remember reading it.

the souless
01-03-2007, 04:48 AM
if kairi was from hb/rg and her grandmother, what if they were somehow related to ansem the wise or xahnahort or someone.

<<LOCK3D43t3RN1TY>>
01-03-2007, 04:49 AM
ya i do think that kairi's grandmother did say something about a war in kh

the souless
01-03-2007, 04:50 AM
that war is ocer the light in peoples hearts long in the past but it could be a posibility

Riku in the Dawn
01-03-2007, 05:02 AM
idk if theyre related to Ansem the wise or Xenahort, possibilities, doubtful possibilities cause something about it would most probably have been revealed by now, but possible.
my guess is still that its in the past maybe a good decade or 2 before Sora's adventure, and those "chasers" will be really strong, atleast way stronger than Sora and Riku, and their strengths let them weild 2 keyblades at a time with ease.
idk how theyre can be a story line with that said, but thats just my guess.

ironbreaker54
01-03-2007, 07:19 AM
What I think should be noticed is the fact that at the end, it says Key war or something. Does that mean that there is more than one chosen one, and also the chasers were in a desert. Was the key war devastating

ironbreaker54
01-03-2007, 07:23 AM
3 strong chasers related to Ansem or Xenahort, that would be creepy.

Riku in the Dawn
01-03-2007, 07:36 AM
3 strong chasers related to Ansem or Xenahort, that would be creepy.

uhh doubt that to both, yes the key war was devastating, one can only assume with all those keyblades, but im throwing this out there, i doubt anyone will be related to Xenahort in the game, a ancestor or descendant yeah probably who knows but not like an uncle or father or w.e.
its up to Square to decide that not me.

ironbreaker54
01-03-2007, 08:58 AM
Yeh, I didn't mean uncle or cousin but... what if they are somehow futuristic versions of sora, riku and kairi

ironbreaker54
01-03-2007, 08:59 AM
Wait! You know the key war, and all those keys, I thought keys were only for the CHosen one (as such)?

Riku in the Dawn
01-03-2007, 05:47 PM
Yeah well in all my theories i've made for kh3, i set it in the past, meaning it'll be descendants of Sora, Riku, and Kairi. As for the chosen one and keyblade choosing them, idk what to tell you? I know that there are and can be many weilders at once. Like in KH2, theres 3 keyblades(Soras, Rikus, and the Kings) and then theres Kairis(that keyblade confuses me because it was handed to her by Riku, her heart didn't call for it or anything, theres speculations everywhere saying that Riku probably made it or he found and what not, but don't call me crazy or criticize me, but i personally don't consider that a keyblade, maybe a different type of blade like Leon[Gunblade] but not a keyblade per-say). So im lost with that, but if Kairi is a chosen one to weild a key, then she was probably a weaker weilder, or her ancestor was(which i doubt case those 3 in the trailer all look like they can handle their own), or w.e the case may be, i believe if she is goign to be one of the descendants of this "chaser" its going to be her kind heart and innocence that'll keep letting her fight to prevail over the dark.

IF anyone can fully explain to me the keyblades, and how theres multiple 1000s of them and all that, and how the keychains play a part in it, plz message me or email me about it.

vanilla bear
01-03-2007, 08:09 PM
i'm really hoping kairi doesn't start wielding a keyblade... i like her innocence and i want to see her stay pure... i'd also like to see riku be tempted by the darkness again and maybe he's the one who's supposed to end this thing, seeing as how he was originally chosen by the keyblade in kh1... in order for peace to occur though, i would imagine riku would have to die, but in doing so, he'd save the world

Riku in the Dawn
01-03-2007, 08:29 PM
true...however, do u really see Riku going back into the darkness after everything he just went through? probably they'll make Riku do that, but i doubt it, if anything theyll put the temptation there but he'll fight it. i see it more as something that can only end by the help of king mickey, and by the help of all the worlds hearts and the heart of Sora all coming into some unison overpowering the darkness and riku and kairi will give strength from theri hearts till all the light of these worlds and hearts become greater than the darkness.

vanilla bear
01-03-2007, 09:04 PM
oh i don't think he'll turn to the darkness again, i just think he'll be very tempted by it... also, i could see him entering the darkness to fight it, but not be consumed by it... eventually i believe riku will be the martyr, he'll die but he'll do so protecting everyone else.. or sora will watch him die and set him off into a keyblade slashing rage

Riku in the Dawn
01-03-2007, 09:07 PM
that'd be effing sick. not riku dieing, but sora on a keyblade slashing rage.

vanilla bear
01-03-2007, 09:09 PM
haha, half the reason i play is for the keyblade action... that part where you fight 1000 heartless was incredible.. i replayed that over and over