View Full Version : Figured out the keyblades at the crossroads!
Dakotz
01-01-2007, 11:27 PM
remember when the kingdom hearts creator said to notice that none of the extra keyblades in the trailer had keychains? well i figuured out why.
The answer is simple. think back to the trilogy- Body, Soul and Heart. We know about the body and the heart, but what about the soul. wer the answer is that the original form of the key blade is determined by the soul. Example, Riku's keyblade. ifor some reason it changed its normal form without the use of a keychain( look closely and you'll see that the both use the heartless insignia). How then did it change. the answer is clear: the keyblade changeed be cause his soul changed. when riku first got the blade, he was still in darkness and now he has turned his back on the dark and trying to become good again, hence "way to dawn".
Still not enough? Well we also know that the keyblade from axel was in there. Sora fisrt got that blade from axel when he died. In reality, the keychain was all that was axel or the copy of his soul.
Of couse this doesn't mean that all keychains are the copies of peoples souls. It just means that the keyblade normally assumes the look and appearence of the soul of the wielder, which is why the blades of the three wielders look different normally.
So now why is this important? Well it refers to the keyblade war. apparently all the keybaldes i the feild were the souls of keyblade weilders long past. Also my theory of why they don't have keychains: they weren't the true keyblades. Maybe in the past somepeople gained the ability to project what their soul looked like in the form of a key-like weapon. of course these weren't the real keyblades, but darn close. so oneday these weilders started fighting to see who was the strongest. and in the end, only four, whose hearts and souls were the strongest, remained. these four then absored the four powers of the world( light, dark twilight and oblivion) and there weapons became the real keyblades.
So using this knowledge, the keyblade that the knight was weilding is not a real keyblade but the projection of his soul.he actually isn't the fourth wielder of the keyblade( dark because sora=light, riku=oblivion and mickey=light). that what the mysterious figure seen is the haze is.
there. 'nuff said.
Lol, Nice theory. Though until Nomura doesn't reveal more stuff, I can't say: 'You're right' ;) But it's a good thought!
Paupu_Fruits_Rox
01-02-2007, 06:25 PM
I know for a fact that the mysterious black figure in the secret ending of KH2 is Xehanort and the Chasers are NOT Sora, Kairi or Riku!!!
And the note given to Sora at the end of KH2 is a note from Mickey warning Sora that Xehanort is plotting a Keyblade War. It won't be the first Keyblade War because there was a war many years ago and Xehanort was one the Chasers and i don't remember what happend but Ansem the Wise found him in Radient Garden and took care of him and since them he obviously became his apprentence and well he basically went nuts and got involved in darkness as usual!
But my favorite character in KH2 was Axel! I think he should some how come back to life in the 3rd game because everybody just loved him and what i was thinking was since him and Roxas were BFFs a part of Sora might feel empty because what if Roxas misses Axel?! and they would promise to meet again someday in the next life! so I think Nomura should put Axel in the 3rd game because he put a tear in my eye when he left! and the rest of the Organization should be put back in because i loved everyone of them especially Marluxia and Zexion!
sora+riku=NOTGAY!!!!!
01-02-2007, 10:00 PM
if somewhere there is somewhere that they actually say that those figures are not sora riku and kairi post the link and the one that says that the shady figure is xehanort
mr fluffs
01-02-2007, 10:58 PM
the part about the soul making the keyblade look different makes sense and sounds right. but the part about how the keyblade war got started i didn't think sounded right.
vanilla bear
01-02-2007, 11:09 PM
yeah we know the three armored people aren't sora, kairi and riku. post a link to where you see that the person in the distance is xehanort... until we actually have the creators of the game telling us what's what and who's who, i don't think anything is 'fact'
Yazeed
01-02-2007, 11:55 PM
if somewhere there is somewhere that they actually say that those figures are not sora riku and kairi post the link and the one that says that the shady figure is xehanort
This was said in a recent interview with Nomura:
Famitsu: You said that none of the iron-clad characters of the secret movie were Roxas or Sora.
Nomura: That is correct. However they are related to one or more characters we have already introduced. Please speculate and look forward to it as well as the new project.
THEY ARE NOT SORA, RIKU, OR KIARI!
vanilla bear
01-03-2007, 09:16 AM
yeah, everyone knew that. now post the one where it says xehanort was the shadowy figure..
Orginization XIV
01-04-2007, 06:55 PM
Um Dakotz nice ideas and the knights not being Sora , Riku and Kiari I think is right but Papou I don't know iof that's Xeahnort for a fact without proof but I think that the person in the black or knight armor far off were the three knights are looking might be Xeahnort but I don't know for sure unless you have a realiable link or something from Square - Enix or some info/sources.
Kingdom_Spades
01-04-2007, 06:57 PM
or the keyblades weilders didnt have souls.
utut1
01-04-2007, 07:01 PM
remember when the kingdom hearts creator said to notice that none of the extra keyblades in the trailer had keychains? well i figuured out why.
The answer is simple. think back to the trilogy- Body, Soul and Heart. We know about the body and the heart, but what about the soul. wer the answer is that the original form of the key blade is determined by the soul. Example, Riku's keyblade. ifor some reason it changed its normal form without the use of a keychain( look closely and you'll see that the both use the heartless insignia). How then did it change. the answer is clear: the keyblade changeed be cause his soul changed. when riku first got the blade, he was still in darkness and now he has turned his back on the dark and trying to become good again, hence "way to dawn".
Still not enough? Well we also know that the keyblade from axel was in there. Sora fisrt got that blade from axel when he died. In reality, the keychain was all that was axel or the copy of his soul.
Of couse this doesn't mean that all keychains are the copies of peoples souls. It just means that the keyblade normally assumes the look and appearence of the soul of the wielder, which is why the blades of the three wielders look different normally.
So now why is this important? Well it refers to the keyblade war. apparently all the keybaldes i the feild were the souls of keyblade weilders long past. Also my theory of why they don't have keychains: they weren't the true keyblades. Maybe in the past somepeople gained the ability to project what their soul looked like in the form of a key-like weapon. of course these weren't the real keyblades, but darn close. so oneday these weilders started fighting to see who was the strongest. and in the end, only four, whose hearts and souls were the strongest, remained. these four then absored the four powers of the world( light, dark twilight and oblivion) and there weapons became the real keyblades.
So using this knowledge, the keyblade that the knight was weilding is not a real keyblade but the projection of his soul.he actually isn't the fourth wielder of the keyblade( dark because sora=light, riku=oblivion and mickey=light). that what the mysterious figure seen is the haze is.
there. 'nuff said.
dude you have such long posts:eek: :eek: :eek:
vanilla bear
01-04-2007, 07:09 PM
well the kh series are very in-depth, there's a lot more to it than just hack and slash with a keyblade... the story is everything
Leonene
01-04-2007, 07:48 PM
long post a times can be good reads, helps come up with newer theories to counter act other theories. :D
Sora Keyblade Master
01-04-2007, 08:26 PM
Dude I'm a fan but not like u, u really did ure homework on this one, thats a good theory lol. At the end u can see that there asking were did this Keyblade come from. So it's posible that the game is from the past or maybe is just to show you that ending so u can break ure head figuring out what's the next game is gonna be about. U can check in googles one of the knights face it's also a posibility that King Mickey starts explaining to them that where this keyblade came from and what are the threads and explain what is this Keyblade War. There's alot of things u can imagine but thats part of the creators making there fans wonder so try not to brake ure head cause then u'll end up disappointed.
vanilla bear
01-04-2007, 09:46 PM
i still wanna see this secret video from jump fiesta... or a pic at least
Sora Keyblade Master
01-04-2007, 10:12 PM
dude go to google and put kingdom hearts III then start serching
Im a little bit confused here.
Im a little bit confused here.Whos the person in the hase?I thougt it
kinda looks like Sora .Please tell.:)
The Graceful Assassin
01-04-2007, 10:41 PM
remember when the kingdom hearts creator said to notice that none of the extra keyblades in the trailer had keychains? well i figuured out why.
The answer is simple. think back to the trilogy- Body, Soul and Heart. We know about the body and the heart, but what about the soul. wer the answer is that the original form of the key blade is determined by the soul. Example, Riku's keyblade. ifor some reason it changed its normal form without the use of a keychain( look closely and you'll see that the both use the heartless insignia). How then did it change. the answer is clear: the keyblade changeed be cause his soul changed. when riku first got the blade, he was still in darkness and now he has turned his back on the dark and trying to become good again, hence "way to dawn".
Still not enough? Well we also know that the keyblade from axel was in there. Sora fisrt got that blade from axel when he died. In reality, the keychain was all that was axel or the copy of his soul.
Of couse this doesn't mean that all keychains are the copies of peoples souls. It just means that the keyblade normally assumes the look and appearence of the soul of the wielder, which is why the blades of the three wielders look different normally.
So now why is this important? Well it refers to the keyblade war. apparently all the keybaldes i the feild were the souls of keyblade weilders long past. Also my theory of why they don't have keychains: they weren't the true keyblades. Maybe in the past somepeople gained the ability to project what their soul looked like in the form of a key-like weapon. of course these weren't the real keyblades, but darn close. so oneday these weilders started fighting to see who was the strongest. and in the end, only four, whose hearts and souls were the strongest, remained. these four then absored the four powers of the world( light, dark twilight and oblivion) and there weapons became the real keyblades.
So using this knowledge, the keyblade that the knight was weilding is not a real keyblade but the projection of his soul.he actually isn't the fourth wielder of the keyblade( dark because sora=light, riku=oblivion and mickey=light). that what the mysterious figure seen is the haze is.
there. 'nuff said.
Hmmm... am I the only one that sees the flaw in this? : /
Nobodies are Body and Soul. A soul cannot live on its own, you die, so the soul alone may be one of the main aspects, but not significant enough to be so influential on the keyblades.
Oh, and that's not Axel's keyblade. I know which one you're talking about, it just looks like it, but it's not.
I like your thinking though.
Dakotz
01-05-2007, 01:13 AM
But didn't nomura say in a interview that two of the keyblades actually were Bond of Flame and Fenrir?
And to all those who misunderstood me, I said that those keyblades were only PROJECTIONS of their souls. There weren't the souls themselves but what the soul looks like in keyblade form.
And also where did you get the idea that souls cannot live on their own?
4thkeybladeholder
01-05-2007, 01:23 AM
didnt Mickey get his keyblade in the dark realm, thats what it said in the game
vanilla bear
01-05-2007, 05:01 AM
hey, dakotz, can you find a link for that nomura interview?
Kairi
01-05-2007, 06:36 PM
didnt Mickey get his keyblade in the dark realm, thats what it said in the game
That is what people assume from playing the game, and maybe they're right, but I think that King Mickey already had his keyblade way before Sora's first journey. And he got Donald and Goofy to look for Sora because he needed it to shut the door at the very end of the game. But that is only my opinion, not the facts. :D
vanilla bear
01-05-2007, 06:39 PM
i do kinda think mickey already had a keyblade before kh1... i just think he believed he wouldn't have to use it and that the chosen one could handle it... until the chosen one fell into darkness and sora took over
Paupu_Fruits_Rox
01-06-2007, 02:24 AM
I totally agree! I understand why Mickey, Riku, & Sora all have a keyblade but for Kairi to get one! that crossed the line! and in the secret ending when i saw every keyblade in the crossroads it kindof made me mad to see them all because i thought thats what made Sora special to begin with that he had his own keyblade but I geuss there is more than one weilder!
it makes me want one! lol
Sora Keyblade Master
01-06-2007, 03:09 AM
dudes forgget about what Nomaru says his to busy doing FFXIII his not gonna spoil anything his just wanna make his fans break there heads. And Riku gave Kairi a Key Blade she didn't get one it's not the same lol.
Roxas The key to destiny
01-06-2007, 03:12 AM
I totally agree! I understand why Mickey, Riku, & Sora all have a keyblade but for Kairi to get one! that crossed the line! and in the secret ending when i saw every keyblade in the crossroads it kindof made me mad to see them all because i thought thats what made Sora special to begin with that he had his own keyblade but I geuss there is more than one weilder!
it makes me want one! lol
you know you can buy them
Sharp or dull
darkheart4ever
01-06-2007, 03:27 AM
The keyblades in reality, their appearence is determined by the condition of the persons heart and soul. So all keyblades all actually look ezaclty the same.
Oompaalec
01-06-2007, 03:49 AM
i'm sure none of you remember me i was here a good while ago, but i see not a thing has changed. people are still making crack pot random stabs in the dark at what the game is like. well your stupid, first of all hahaha this is funny in the first kingdom hearts Cloud's chocobo keyblade has a chicken or a feather one of those two as teh keychain, now please tell me what in hell relates cloud to a chicken besides the fact of temporary flight ( that means you old airplane ideas. now see what i just did i tried to connect cloud to a chicken turns out he pretty much has nothing to do with it besides that one fact. now what you guys are still doing is trying to use one fact to make up something that you think makes since but in reallity those theories are boarder line retarded haha. alright well tell everyone i'm back. this post is made mainly for the person who started this thread. now lets see where it goes from here on out
Master of Keyblades
01-06-2007, 04:17 AM
mabey this can help us "CHASER" in the dictionary
means - One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing.
Soooooo... this could mean that they created the keyblades????
also i think in this game we will see the dark side of the keyblades power
seeing that in the secret ending it says
"The Keyblade is said to hold phenominal power. One legend says it's weilder saved the world while another says that he wrought chaos upon it. "
maybe this is what is in store for us???
i hope this info can help us
Riku in the Dawn
01-06-2007, 05:28 AM
mabey this can help us "CHASER" in the dictionary
means - One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing.
Soooooo... this could mean that they created the keyblades????
also i think in this game we will see the dark side of the keyblades power
seeing that in the secret ending it says
"The Keyblade is said to hold phenominal power. One legend says it's weilder saved the world while another says that he wrought chaos upon it. "
maybe this is what is in store for us???
i hope this info can help us
thank you very much, i keep saying that in different threads and people tend to think itll be darker by means of how the storyline goes against the heroes, when i say kh3 should be what happens when the keyblade is used to literally go into the heart of the world and destroy it. how friggin amazing will those graphics be, ur there fighting the good guys then next thing u know u summon heartless or nobodies, or the new enemy which most people call souless. and then u jump over them strike down the hero jump into the heart of the world and stab it and get out of there and move on ,,,,
i dont think itll be like that entirely but i thik thatll make some kool graphics
The Graceful Assassin
01-06-2007, 05:32 AM
But didn't nomura say in a interview that two of the keyblades actually were Bond of Flame and Fenrir?
And to all those who misunderstood me, I said that those keyblades were only PROJECTIONS of their souls. There weren't the souls themselves but what the soul looks like in keyblade form.
And also where did you get the idea that souls cannot live on their own?
Projections... well it's a bit of a stretch but anything's possible.
I got the idea.... from real life.... lol And DiZ says in a Secret Ansem Report that when the soul leaves the body, the person dies (but what if the heart leaves? Nobodies... yadda yadda).
Master of Keyblades
01-06-2007, 05:38 AM
well...not so much of us using it seeing that its a disney game but more like the villan terrorizes the world with it and we have to restore it because i highly dought they would make us use it, we will most likely see what its capable of
vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 06:37 AM
are you guys proposing that we may play as the villain in this next game? or for at least part of it. i hope not.. i do sympathize with villains but i always love playing the hero
Master of Keyblades
01-06-2007, 02:07 PM
not really playing as him, but the villan will use the keyblade for destruction
and not good we will most likely play as the hero but we will see the destruction it can bring
vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 06:26 PM
oh i was pretty sure to begin with that we'd play the hero again and i'm fine with that... and from the looks of the video i would imagine we're gonna be watching quite a bit of destruction.. in cutscenes and flashbacks of course
Unkown-Aelix
01-06-2007, 06:36 PM
I think its a good theory, but it has one major flaw. The flaw coincides with the theory that this happend in the past. "Xehanorts Memories" (was i Xehanort? oh well it doesnt matter) obviously refers to the past.
One of the keyblades in the huge crossroads is Fernir. Fernir is, according to what you say, Cloud's soul keyblade. The Keyblade was in the ground, rusty, and no one had touched it for a long time. Fernir was/is Sora's keyblade. That must mean that this happens AFTER teh whole Sora story line.
BUT neither of those theories have been confirmed.
vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 06:40 PM
aelix, what i'm thinking is that those knights' scenes happened in the past but we see them through flashbacks..i think the game will be set right after kh2, but that other stuff happened a long time ago.. thoughts
The Graceful Assassin
01-06-2007, 07:11 PM
Well, the different keyblades he gets with the keychains aren't exactly plot-related so I really just think it was an easter egg in the video.
Unkown-Aelix
01-06-2007, 07:19 PM
true. it could be that.
say does anyone have any idea of when KH3 will come out? oh well why should i even ask its gonna come out on PS3 and i dont have that........:(
vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 07:21 PM
haha, aelix it doesn't matter... kh3 won't be out for quite some time... FM comes out in march and that should hold us for a little while.. but kh3 won't even be in production until some time this year so we have a good wait ahead of us
Example, Riku's keyblade. ifor some reason it changed its normal form without the use of a keychain( look closely and you'll see that the both use the heartless insignia). How then did it change. the answer is clear: the keyblade changeed be cause his soul changed. when riku first got the blade, he was still in darkness and now he has turned his back on the dark and trying to become good again, hence "way to dawn".
Sora's Keyblades change appearance with the same Keychains and Riku's Keyblades change appearance with same Keychains. See below.
Still not enough? Well we also know that the keyblade from axel was in there.
Where? Bond of Flame has never been pointed out to be in Sunset Horizons, and I've definitely never seen it myself. Please show on a screenshot if it is.
in the end, only four, whose hearts and souls were the strongest, remained. these four then absored the four powers of the world( light, dark twilight and oblivion) and there weapons became the real keyblades.
So using this knowledge, the keyblade that the knight was weilding is not a real keyblade but the projection of his soul.he actually isn't the fourth wielder of the keyblade( dark because sora=light, riku=oblivion and mickey=light). that what the mysterious figure seen is the haze is.
Where did "Oblivion" come from? You've put Sora and Mickey as Light when I'm almost positive that:
Kairi - Light
Mickey - Dawn
Sora - Twilight
Riku - Dark
(Sora and Mickey maybe the wrong way round. Kairi and Riku I'm certain of.) You didn't mention Kairi:
Kairi's Keyblade:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6908/twtnwpart100hr11min27sesb9.png
Kairi's Keychain:
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5725/twtnwpart100hr11min30seyg4.png
Also you say the Keyblade the Knight is wielding is... Wait... the Knight? There're three Knights, all holding Keyblades before picking up the Keyblades with Keychains in the centre. Two of the ones in the centre have the Mickey Mouse Keychain while one has the Heartless Emblem Keychain. Those Keyblades have been confirmed to be the same Keyblades as that of Sora, Riku, and King Mickey (by Nomura in an interview).
Keyblades were designed for a purpose, as Ansem discovered, and as such, they could not have been created as projections of Souls unless the Souls have a purpose for which they need a Keyblade. Keyblades choose their wielders so why would they stay the same appearance for different wielders? Speaking of which, Sora and Riku both wielded multiple different-looking Keyblades but with the same Keychains (ie the Mickey Keychain for Sora and the Heartless Emblem Keychain for Riku), so does that mean their Souls change when they switch Keyblades?
Sorry if I've missed something of what you said, but I find your theory doubtful.
if somewhere there is somewhere that they actually say that those figures are not sora riku and kairi post the link and the one that says that the shady figure is xehanort
The interview:
http://www.kingdomhearts3.org/showthread.php?t=42
My signature quotes it.
The shadowy figure being Xehanort is complete rumour. We have no idea who it actually is.
i still wanna see this secret video from jump fiesta... or a pic at least
The video was never released to the public and won't be until Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ comes out. It was said that it was shown "behind closed doors at Jump Fiesta" and no one was able to smuggle a camera in (except for someone taking a picture of someone in Final Fantasy XIII it seems).
Nobodies are Body and Soul. A soul cannot live on its own, you die, so the soul alone may be one of the main aspects, but not significant enough to be so influential on the keyblades.
The theory is that when Nobodies are defeated, Souls are released and Soulless may be created.
i do kinda think mickey already had a keyblade before kh1... i just think he believed he wouldn't have to use it and that the chosen one could handle it... until the chosen one fell into darkness and sora took over
Mickey went on a quest for a Key:
Question: In the ending, Riku and the King are on the other side of the door. Why is that?
Nomura: As far as the King is concerned, he was on the other side from the beginning. He disappeared because he went to the world on the other side in order to find one of the two keys. There, he has his own adventure in the same way as Sora. As for Riku: his body stolen by Ansem, his heart did not remain in this world. The other side of the door is, just as it appears, darkness. So Riku's heart went to the world on the other side, that is to say just as Ansem was saying at the end, the world of darkness. Thus, when Ansem disappears and Riku returns to his original body, he is in the world of darkness.
i'm sure none of you remember me i was here a good while ago, but i see not a thing has changed. people are still making crack pot random stabs in the dark at what the game is like.
I remember you, and welcome back ;)
I think its a good theory, but it has one major flaw. The flaw coincides with the theory that this happend in the past. "Xehanorts Memories" (was i Xehanort? oh well it doesnt matter) obviously refers to the past.
"Xehanort's Memories" must refer to the past, but it doesn't mean that the scene was in the past. I do think it may be a flashback though.
aelix, what i'm thinking is that those knights' scenes happened in the past but we see them through flashbacks..i think the game will be set right after kh2, but that other stuff happened a long time ago.. thoughts
Looks like someone's been reading my posts ;)
vanilla bear
01-13-2007, 04:32 AM
that one actually i've been sticking to.. i have a lot of theories of my own but i do tend to view your stuff also, riku.. you're one of the most enlightened members here
comacosy2222
01-13-2007, 07:26 PM
this may sound a little wierd but i think the three people in the metal coats are wakka and those other people from destiny island that sora used to hang out with and the person in the mist walking towards them is ather sora(that guy said the people in the armor want sora but he never said anything about the guy walking towards them isnt) or the first keyblade wielder. and iv seen a picture of that movie from kh2 fm it shoes the tallest guy in armor runing towards somthing and have his mask was torn oj and he looked really pissed off
creatorofchaos
01-13-2007, 08:33 PM
the keyblades were probably created by the chasers and so when sora riku and kairi arent using the keyblades they dissapear to that world with the rest of the keyblades. The chasers showed up on this crossroad to deal with xenorght once again because hes a threat to all worlds and keyblades! The creature was probably a heartless or nobody sent by xenorght to kill them but failed adn now he has come to get his revenge!!!:eek: :cool:
creatorofchaos
01-13-2007, 08:34 PM
If anyone wants glimpse of my book or want me to write them one about kingdom hearts email me and illl se what i can do!:cool: :cool:
Letfum III
01-13-2007, 08:38 PM
the keyblades were probably created by the chasers and so when sora riku and kairi arent using the keyblades they dissapear to that world with the rest of the keyblades. The chasers showed up on this crossroad to deal with xenorght once again because hes a threat to all worlds and keyblades! The creature was probably a heartless or nobody sent by xenorght to kill them but failed adn now he has come to get his revenge!!!:eek: :cool:i thought that the keyblades were there after the war that happend along time ago and sora donald snd goffy already walked through the cross road so yea.
Alien
01-13-2007, 11:08 PM
riku is definately one of the most enlightened members.
the key is a seperate entity, and takes form of the current condition of the persons soul, this is why nobodies can have keyblades but heartless cant.
what the keychains are/for im not sure of, maybe they have something to do with whether the person is light or dark, or how the person recieved their keyblade.
fallen1
01-14-2007, 12:11 AM
hello, everyone, new guy here and i got a theory, and yes i read the past posts.
Im thinkin that the scene wit the knights is a flashback, and that the shadowy figure(whoever it is), is some evil thing, and that the knights are there to fight it.
im thinkin that they win the battle, but one, two, or all of em mess up and only temporarily solve the problem, and im also thinkin that whatever evil thing they may have sealed is now free and Sora, Riku, Mickey, and maybe Kairi, gotta repeat history but this time finish it for good.
fataly stupid, ok, skathingly brilliant?
Alien
01-14-2007, 03:12 AM
yeah, i think thats the general idea here, now u need to start asking more questions and try to find the holes in your theory and then fix them up.
also, my last post in this thread was also a theory, not a fact.
Twilight Dragon
01-14-2007, 04:33 AM
Wow! You guys sure respond with some good opinions.
I don't know if my opinion would matter much, but I' ll say something,
I believe you all of you put up some good theories and I think all of have your own thoughts about the next Kingdom hearts game. And even if you don't believe that it matches up with another persons opinion you guys show real class about it which is always nice to see. And yes I agree a little with the story he presented since it made since that the story would go with the soul since the first game was about hearts and the second I guess was about body, so I believe the next game would follow the line with a plot about the soul. So I'm very impressed with that.
So the key thing now would be to gather all information that's presented now and to think about all the riddles that are presented to you and to make all the logical choices that make since to you.
comacosy2222
01-14-2007, 11:49 PM
in the secret ending of kh2 the metal persion is standing on top of the big dragon nobody that sora and riku defeated. i wonder how it got there?
Twilight Dragon
01-15-2007, 12:34 AM
I'm thinking that since Kingdom hearts might be a passage way to all worlds that the Dragon Nobody could of just fallen onto the crossroads.
But then theirs the question. what world has the crossroads in it?
Alien
01-15-2007, 12:36 AM
crossroads could a link between all the worlds, or a seperate world entirely.
comacosy2222
01-17-2007, 12:49 AM
i think that cross road is from the ending of CoM when riku is walking with king mikey and ansem is there and says way to dark way to light and riku piks the middle road to twilight and the road he came from was oblivion
Sora Keyblade Master
01-17-2007, 12:54 AM
that is the crossroad is chaped like an X.
fallen1
01-18-2007, 12:39 AM
i dont think its that crossroads, they look to different and its kinda outta the blue. i think the crossroads in the movie is completely different. as for the nobody dragon, i redid the boss sequence a while back and noticied that Xemnas king think kind of looked like the first armored figure, but with a few key differences, long sword thing instead of keyblade like thing, no big crown and just two horn like things, and more im sure i just cant remember.
TheChosenWeilder5
01-18-2007, 12:49 AM
omg i didnt think about that big ass claw that the first soldier is standing by i didnt think that was fromt hat metal dragon you fight at the end of kh2 omg so that brings a whole nother clue to it !!!
Keymaster
01-18-2007, 01:38 AM
Why don't you think sora, kari, and riku could be the people in the secret ending of KH2?. I have alot of diff. theories but i think that would make most sense. It takes place in the futer and sara and riku key blades are there, i know kari's isnt but she can sill hold a keyblade, and i did think that there was 2 guys and that other one looked really feminin. I know it would be far in the futer but it still could happen.
Rejected Oblivion
01-18-2007, 01:52 AM
Because Nomura has announced that they are completely new characters.
Keymaster
01-18-2007, 01:59 AM
O ok. well that changes everything.
Khaos
01-18-2007, 02:01 AM
How did Roxas and Sora both have keyblades at the same time if only one of them had their Soul?
Alien
01-18-2007, 02:45 AM
when the nobody is made the body and soul must have been copied in soras case.
Unkown-Aelix
01-18-2007, 02:51 AM
Kairi - Light
Mickey - Dawn
Sora - Twilight
Riku - Dark
;)
uhhm, sorry to say but Riku is the Dawn, not Mickey. well, actually they both could be teh "Dawn" but riku's keyblade "Way to the Dawn" kinda says it all, Mickey's keyblade just being a gold Kingdom Key. and Riku went into the darkness and came out, well not a physical body like Mickey. Mickey never actually succumed to darkness, he just went in it, still being a creature of the Light. but Riku actually acepted darkness in his heart and then came back to Light.
Im thinking that
Mickey=Light/Sunset
Sora=Light/Noon
Riku=Dawn,
Norty=Darkness.
Kairi=only Nomura knows.
Actuall, Riku could be sunset and Mickey could be Dawn. Riku started out in the Light, then went to darkness (day>->->|Sunset|>->->Night)
but
Mickey started out in darkness and then came to the light (Night>->->->|Dawn|>->->->Day)
but i still think Riku is dawn because of his Keyblade's name.
P.S. what is the name of Kairi's keyblade? when i first saw it i thougt it was the one from Pooh land. hehehehehe pooh!
hawaiiansurfer2010
01-18-2007, 07:12 AM
i wonder if kairi is now a keyblade weilder????
Paupu_Fruits_Rox
01-18-2007, 03:53 PM
I screamed when i Kairi got a Keyblade! She doesn't even deserve one! i don't think she should is consitterd a Keyblade weilder! if she is that's totall BS!
Namine
01-18-2007, 03:56 PM
I screamed when i Kairi got a Keyblade! She doesn't even deserve one! i don't think she should is consitterd a Keyblade weilder! if she is that's totall BS!
I agree! I mean, she can't even fight...
Paupu_Fruits_Rox
01-18-2007, 03:59 PM
I know she couldn't even kill the stupid heartless!
Namine
01-18-2007, 04:11 PM
I know, it took ages for her! But Riku helped her.:p
Sora Keyblade Master
01-18-2007, 05:48 PM
everybody is getting a keyblade this days, I think Hayner should get one Kairi got one why can't Hayner get one.
Paupu_Fruits_Rox
01-18-2007, 08:07 PM
I don't think Hayner should get one but he would make a good fighter! and yah if it wasn't for Riku on Kairi's side when they were fighting the heartless Kairi would've been long gone!
fallen1
01-18-2007, 09:39 PM
if u think about it Kairi getting a keyblade is really not that surprising, i mean they have the only nobodies that still survived after being reunited with their other selves and they are connected by heart. and because of that connection they can both have keyblades, course i admit she coulda fought a lot better.
Rejected Oblivion
01-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Well I think it's more of the fact that she was part of Sora for most of KH1 and so after becoming herself again she must of obtained at least 1 or 2 abilities from Sora.
Alien
01-18-2007, 10:49 PM
she is also one of the princesses, which makes her special aswell, but i dont think she can weild a keyblade because she was part of sora, but because she was chosen aswell.
Paupu_Fruits_Rox
01-18-2007, 10:50 PM
i heard they only reason why she got was because if someone somehow helps a person with a keyblade then they automaticlly gat an element of there's and i guess that's how Kairi got her own! which pisses me off!
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