help me remember plz...

[Riku in the Dawn]

ok i keep reading the unknown, and noone knew who the unknown was, then people mention that mickey was the unknown and then in another thread it says that in kh:fm its xemnas in a battle, well i live in the US so i couldnt play kh:fm, and in the regular kh i dont remember any unknown unless ur talking about the guy in the cave that talked to riku or when riku is in hallow bastion the guy who gave riku the heartless keyblade.
and speaking of riku, everyone says riku gave the keyblade to sora after he opened the door, honestly i havent played kh in a while, and i tend to fly by destiny island everytim i replay it, but at no point to i remember riku giving sora the keyblade, i remember when u enter hallow bastion he takes it from u but then u regain it but never does he give it to sora. and actually the only time i remember riku giving anyone a keyblade is to kairi in kh2.
so if anyone can help me remember itll be greatly appreciated.

[Riku Md]

Well if you remember in the begginning of the game when that storm comes to Destiny Islands Riku just gets swallowed by the darkness. Sora almost gets swallowed but theres a bright light and the next thing he knows hes got the keyblade in his hand. Could this be what you mean?

[Riku in the Dawn]

Well if you remember in the begginning of the game when that storm comes to Destiny Islands Riku just gets swallowed by the darkness. Sora almost gets swallowed but theres a bright light and the next thing he knows hes got the keyblade in his hand. Could this be what you mean?

yeah thanx, but alot of people on these forums say riku gives it to sora, what i remember is sora runs to riku then riku tells him to accept the darkness and enter it with him then extends his hand and he gets swallowed, and then theres a glimpse of light and next thing u know u have the keyblade and ur fighting heartless, but what im asking was that keyblade intended for riku which he then gave to sora knowing sora would be able to keep it away from darkness (in other words meaning riku gave it to sora) or was it meant for sora and in his time of need his heart called on it with the little glimpse of light, because i never remember riku actually giving it to him, he just disapperead then sora had it.

[Khaos]

Riku didnt give Sora the keyblade. He just chose Darkness as a way to escape the island, or explore outside the island. He saw Darkness as a way to explore the outside world. Whereas Sora didnt want to use Darkness for that, and instead was given the Keyblade to combat it. Basically, Sora chose Light, Riku chose Darkness, and the game follows that path.

Thats what I understood by it anyway.

[Riku in the Dawn]

Riku didnt give Sora the keyblade. He just chose Darkness as a way to escape the island, or explore outside the island. He saw Darkness as a way to explore the outside world. Whereas Sora didnt want to use Darkness for that, and instead was given the Keyblade to combat it. Basically, Sora chose Light, Riku chose Darkness, and the game follows that path.

Thats what I understood by it anyway.

me too, but what ive read a couple of times on different threads is that riku gave the keyblade to sora, which im pretty sure is false. what i do know is that they both can weild keyblades, and that at that moment when sora needed to escape the darkness and go to the light his heart called upon his weapon, the keyblade, and from there he used, and when riku saw it and knew only the strong of heart could weild it he used the strength of darkness in his heart to weild it and make sora look foolsih, but then sora overcame that provign riku wrong, leading riku to find his own escape, which was into the darkness again, and in that met ansem/xemnas/xenahort who offered that escape and gave him the power in his heart to call upon his own keyblade.
thats what i got from all of kh1 but that riku never gave sora his keyblade, helped him call for it yes, but not gave it to him.

[4thkeybladeholder]

i think that sora got the keyblade because riku chose darkness and the keyblade chose sora instead as soon as riku was swallowed by the darkness, but if riku had turned away from it before he would have gotten the keyblade.

[Riku in the Dawn]

i think that sora got the keyblade because riku chose darkness and the keyblade chose sora instead as soon as riku was swallowed by the darkness, but if riku had turned away from it before he would have gotten the keyblade.

OK..see thats where i keep getting confused, everyone says Riku was suppose to get the keyblade first to battle the darkness but instead accepted the darkness and the keyblade went to Sora because Riku gave it to him. When was any of this stated...And still idk what people say when they mention the unknown in one, is it the guy that talks to riku in the cave under the tree(the secret place) or are they talking about Xemnas when he gives riku the keyblade or what?? someone said its Mickey that hes in KH1 and is thought of as an unknown...or is it Xemnas in kh:fm???? im so lost with that lol

[Riku Md]

no i doubt he would get it at all if he never allowed the darkness to fill his heart. The reason why the darkness swallowed him and the storm came was because he willed it to come, he allowed the darkness to fill his heart in order to leave the island. But then again, the darkness might have still came because Xehanorts heartless had undergone all those experiements....in that case, yes he would have gotten the keyblade.

[Riku in the Dawn]

no i doubt he would get it at all if he never allowed the darkness to fill his heart. The reason why the darkness swallowed him and the storm came was because he willed it to come, he allowed the darkness to fill his heart in order to leave the island. But then again, the darkness might have still came because Xehanorts heartless had undergone all those experiements....in that case, yes he would have gotten the keyblade.

AWW..ok i get you, i still think people are confusing when they say Riku gave it to Sora, allowed for Sora to get it is more like the case, but gave is very misunderstood.

[Riku]

I'll quote an interview:

Question: About Riku being the rightful owner of the Keyblade - why is it that Sora had the Keyblade first?

Nomura: That part is also a bit vague. In the Destiny Islands when Riku is swallowed by the darkness, there's a sparkle of light, and next comes the scene where Sora first gets the Keyblade, right? In my setting, the darkness wrapping itself around those two is the darkness of Riku's heart. At the moment when Sora enters that darkness, the light you can see is the light of the heart. Sora, trying to help Riku, struggling in the darkness, touches that light and temporarily the Keyblade goes to Sora.

Quoted from another site:

Riku opens the door to the heart of Destiny Islands, letting in the Heartless, which subsequently tear the world apart. When Sora finds him on that night as the Heartless are attacking the islands, Riku speaks to him as one who has already been seduced by the darkness, urging Sora to join him. It is when Sora refuses that the darkness swallows Riku and the Keyblade chooses Sora as its alternative master.

As for the Enigmatic Man (or the Unknown) from Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix - he fights with two red lightsabre-style swords exactly like Xemnas does in Kingdom Hearts II. He was also the central figure when six appear at Hollow Bastion early in Kingdom Hearts II. In other words, it was Xemnas.

[Exodus NO.XVII]

I'll quote an interview:



Quoted from another site:



As for the Enigmatic Man (or the Unknown) from Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix - he fights with two red lightsabre-style swords exactly like Xemnas does in Kingdom Hearts II. He was also the central figure when six appear at Hollow Bastion early in Kingdom Hearts II. In other words, it was Xemnas.
Not True.Heartless Ansem fights like that for he is Xehanorts heartless but he holds back against Sora because he knows he can't defeat 2 keyblades the Second being Mickeys and waits untill he gets stronger using that fighting style.

[Watchingoveru]

Not True.Heartless Ansem fights like that for he is Xehanorts heartless but he holds back against Sora because he knows he can't defeat 2 keyblades the Second being Mickeys and waits untill he gets stronger using that fighting style.

cool

[waitin4KH3]

Not True.Heartless Ansem fights like that for he is Xehanorts heartless but he holds back against Sora because he knows he can't defeat 2 keyblades the Second being Mickeys and waits untill he gets stronger using that fighting style.

Ummmmm..........not true. Unknown, or Enigmatic Man, is Xemnas. Completely different (well, not entirely) from Ansem, or Xehanort's Heartless.

[UltimaxWeapon]

Ummmmm..........not true. Unknown, or Enigmatic Man, is Xemnas. Completely different (well, not entirely) from Ansem, or Xehanort's Heartless.

its actually basically his attacks and patterns from kh2 but in kh1 so it would be a lot harder

[ultimavman]

riku accepted darkness, and sora didnt probably why he got it or maybe he had a strong heart, but sora got the keybade first than riku took it away from sora in hollow bastion but sora fought riku for a second time int hte great hall and he got the keyblade back (riku did not give hte keyblade to sora)