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Mr. Tinkerbelle
12-09-2006, 02:14 PM
WHAT WE KNOW
The characters are original and have not been seen in previous games. They are NOT Sora, Riku, Kairi.
There are a lot of keyblades, a war is coming or has passed.
The Crossroads are important.
Has something to do with the Keyblade bringing chaos.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
The identity of the armoured figures.
Who the distant outlined figure is.
The place in the Kingdom Hearts timeline this trailer takes place in.
What the text means by "birth by sleep".
These worlds are based on my own assumptions and predictions, they are to be considered rumors.
Kingdom Hearts III will continue to feature Disney related worlds since that is the main aspect of the game. Due to some new ownership and popular previous worlds, many new and old worlds will likely make a return.
Pixar Worlds
Pixar worlds are an absolute in Kingdom Hearts III. Previously, modern-classics like "Finding Nemo" and "Toy Story" were not featured in Kingdom Hearts because, despite the Disney name, were registered with Pixar, a seperate company. But since the development of Kingdom Hearts II, Disney finally bought Pixar. As a result, all Pixar characters and movies are under the Disney Empire and due to their critical and commercial success, it would be a missed opportunity not to have these characters featured in the next game.
Toy Story - "Andy and/or Sid's Room"
With new ownership over Pixar, we may see a new level where Sora and Co. are the size of toys, much like when you shrink in Wonderland in the first game.
The Incredibles - "Nomanisan Island"
Everyone remembers the secretly evil island from the Incredibles where the super-family spring back into action to take down the nasty Syndrome. It wouldn't be a long shot to say that Sora, Donald and Goofy might don some tights and help the family out in the next game.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
A world and characters that were heavily requested in Kingdom Hearts II but never made the cut. We may expect some appearances in the next game.
"100 Acre Wood"
The one world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II where no Heartless roam. In this world the player simply plays through simple mini-games. This has proved to be popular, especially since it is completely optional and provides a good game for younger players. Since it came back in KH2, it's likely it will come back once again.
"Olympus Colisseum"
The tournaments on the Olympus world have been favorites of fans since the first KH game. Being one of the most visited world in any of the games, it would be unheard of to exclude it from the next game.
New World - "Sand World"
The world visible in the Secret Trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II may be a world in the next title, considering the World That Never Was from Kingdom Hearts II was featured in the Secret Trailer from the first Kingdom Hearts.
"Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden"
Being the very most important world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II, being the root of all evil and good, it's quite likely that it will play another large part in the next game. Probably being the world that is safe to return to at any time full of shops like Traverse Town or Twilight Town.
"Destiny Islands"
Since this is where the characters were last left off, it's almost impossible for the game to not begin here. And with the game likely being on Playstation 3, it's an excellent place to present the amazing new graphics. A world full of palm trees, sand, water, a nice sunset/rise and a quite little village.
So i hope you enjoyed all that ! :D :D
tell me how you feel.
Cat eye
12-09-2006, 04:34 PM
WOW...you just blew my mind with all that info! But I don't like the Hunchback of Notre Dome. I didn't enjoy the movie, but maybe the level will be better in KH 3.
Dark Angel
12-09-2006, 05:14 PM
Mind boggled.....too much info in one go.....but thanks all the same...
A new world huh.....sounds kewl
Cat eye
12-09-2006, 05:22 PM
all the new worlds sound great and exciting. I can't wait til KH 3 comes out!
Me either...and did you find all that info Mr. Tinkerbelle or is it your own idea?...
Demyx
12-10-2006, 01:32 AM
I may be 11, but here is my assumption on some things. What I say is also based off the creator of kingdom hearts who I found posting reply's in very good chat room. 1:Kingdom Hearts III could have been out sooner, but the creator of Kingdom Hearts talked about a game they were working on and after it would begin working on Kingdom Hearts III. The game I now know is Finaly Fantasy 12. To make matters worst there is already (this was announced on tv's X - play) that Final Fantasy 13 was going to begin development.
2: Kingdom Hearts III has also beeen said to not have the char's we've grown to love Sora, Riku, and Kiari. Why you might ask? I figure that Kingdom Hearts III is going to tell the story of how it all began. How the Keyblade was found or made or some other ways. Also I think this will take place in the war and to those of you who don't know of the war I'm talking about look at number 3.
3: Warning!!!!!!!!!!!! Major Spoiler Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless you want to know about something from the secret ending of Kingdom Hearts II go away now or skip what I'm saying. Now then since that's outta the way here I go. *takes Deap Breath* Master of Keyblade the first word assumes that (only maybe) Keyblade is a form of fighting which brings me to my next word, Key Blade War being a war between Keybladers and it's being a war could mean between good and evil, different nations, or to tip the boat over the world or other worlds. Then the lost two, maybe Riku and Sora have something to play in this or Naminai or Roxas (Roxas being sora's spirit sorta thing who re awakens Sora in Kingdom Hearts II and Naminai being Kairi which makes some sence since Karia and Sora are very close to eachother. Then theres Chasers coming from my last word the Lost Two. Chasers could be the ones who look for the Lost Two to end the Keyblade War or destroy the opposing force meaning good or evil has chasers looking for the Lost Two to have them on there side to take over. Xehanort is another one. He was ansems apprentiece and when ansem was consumed by darkness because he tried to find it Xehanort took ansems name (and I heard this from wikipeidia) and battled Sora as a test of his strength at the end of the game and was alway's him. Xehanort changed his name to ansem and then became (or was) a nobody calling himself Xemnas unscrabbled meaning Ansem.
4: This is just something I want to throw in. These are the real names or the people in Organization 13.
Xemnas-Ansem-Xehanort
Xaldin-Dalin
Axel-Ale
Vexen-Vene
Roxas-Sora
Larxene-Larene
Zexion-Zeion
Demyx-Edmy
This are what I think there real names are. It's simple take the X out of it and unscrabble. I know some of these are their real names, but some I have no clue.
5: The worlds. Now I have heard some things and it seems clear that worlds like The 100 acre woods and Hercule's world will be in Kingdom Hearts III, but with disney renewing a lot of of there old movies, maybe they'll use them. I can't remember all of them, but this is just a theory.
6: The crossroads in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories and in the secret ending of Kingdom Hearts II could be symbolic. The cross roads could be the crossing point where you go on (srry if that makes no sense at all which I did just put in because some ppl might turn it in to something bigger) or the point where ppl meet up (ppl being important char's and or new ppl) Like the Knights.
7: Spoiler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay moving on the knights wore armor. If you notice the armor you'll see tht one is a girl, not getting into anything big, but her body shap and the way here chest plate moved and was shaped for her you know whats. The first one is a man. His big body tells it all and the key he has is similar to a weapon one of the Organization 13 members have meaning that member may have been a Keyblade Knight in The keyblade war. The other one is a boy because no chest plate modifications for what girls have, but small. The keyblades at the middle of the cross roads are the kingdom key, the gold kingdom key, and Riku's blade. This is akward, but true if you par attention. The monster dissapering *thinks* looks fimiliar to a nobody you battle, but I'll let you figure out that on your own.
That's all for now and I am 11 and never played Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories and haven't finished Kingdom Hearts 2. I am also new as of today and I will post more reports in the future from reply's.
SoraDude
12-10-2006, 02:03 AM
I think that Sora should be older and should be in the next Kingdom Hearts. Cause its nothing with out him. But i think it should be like that trailer in some ways it would be cool
Demyx
12-10-2006, 02:16 AM
SoraDude did you read my report? Just asking and also I found out some stuff from a vid I watched on youtube. These are the lines are saw and the third was almost imposible because I had to pause at right time to see it. "His voice... has left me" "This time... I'll fight" and "Change The third key." and for everyone I am 11.
The_True_Keyblader
12-10-2006, 03:51 AM
I may be 11, but here is my assumption on some things. What I say is also based off the creator of kingdom hearts who I found posting reply's in very good chat room. 1:Kingdom Hearts III could have been out sooner, but the creator of Kingdom Hearts talked about a game they were working on and after it would begin working on Kingdom Hearts III. The game I now know is Finaly Fantasy 12. To make matters worst there is already (this was announced on tv's X - play) that Final Fantasy 13 was going to begin development.
2: Kingdom Hearts III has also beeen said to not have the char's we've grown to love Sora, Riku, and Kiari. Why you might ask? I figure that Kingdom Hearts III is going to tell the story of how it all began. How the Keyblade was found or made or some other ways. Also I think this will take place in the war and to those of you who don't know of the war I'm talking about look at number 3.
3: Warning!!!!!!!!!!!! Major Spoiler Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless you want to know about something from the secret ending of Kingdom Hearts II go away now or skip what I'm saying. Now then since that's outta the way here I go. *takes Deap Breath* Master of Keyblade the first word assumes that (only maybe) Keyblade is a form of fighting which brings me to my next word, Key Blade War being a war between Keybladers and it's being a war could mean between good and evil, different nations, or to tip the boat over the world or other worlds. Then the lost two, maybe Riku and Sora have something to play in this or Naminai or Roxas (Roxas being sora's spirit sorta thing who re awakens Sora in Kingdom Hearts II and Naminai being Kairi which makes some sence since Karia and Sora are very close to eachother. Then theres Chasers coming from my last word the Lost Two. Chasers could be the ones who look for the Lost Two to end the Keyblade War or destroy the opposing force meaning good or evil has chasers looking for the Lost Two to have them on there side to take over. Xehanort is another one. He was ansems apprentiece and when ansem was consumed by darkness because he tried to find it Xehanort took ansems name (and I heard this from wikipeidia) and battled Sora as a test of his strength at the end of the game and was alway's him. Xehanort changed his name to ansem and then became (or was) a nobody calling himself Xemnas unscrabbled meaning Ansem.
4: This is just something I want to throw in. These are the real names or the people in Organization 13.
Xemnas-Ansem-Xehanort
Xaldin-Dalin
Axel-Ale
Vexen-Vene
Roxas-Sora
Larxene-Larene
Zexion-Zeion
Demyx-Edmy
This are what I think there real names are. It's simple take the X out of it and unscrabble. I know some of these are their real names, but some I have no clue.
5: The worlds. Now I have heard some things and it seems clear that worlds like The 100 acre woods and Hercule's world will be in Kingdom Hearts III, but with disney renewing a lot of of there old movies, maybe they'll use them. I can't remember all of them, but this is just a theory.
6: The crossroads in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories and in the secret ending of Kingdom Hearts II could be symbolic. The cross roads could be the crossing point where you go on (srry if that makes no sense at all which I did just put in because some ppl might turn it in to something bigger) or the point where ppl meet up (ppl being important char's and or new ppl) Like the Knights.
7: Spoiler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay moving on the knights wore armor. If you notice the armor you'll see tht one is a girl, not getting into anything big, but her body shap and the way here chest plate moved and was shaped for her you know whats. The first one is a man. His big body tells it all and the key he has is similar to a weapon one of the Organization 13 members have meaning that member may have been a Keyblade Knight in The keyblade war. The other one is a boy because no chest plate modifications for what girls have, but small. The keyblades at the middle of the cross roads are the kingdom key, the gold kingdom key, and Riku's blade. This is akward, but true if you par attention. The monster dissapering *thinks* looks fimiliar to a nobody you battle, but I'll let you figure out that on your own.
That's all for now and I am 11 and never played Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories and haven't finished Kingdom Hearts 2. I am also new as of today and I will post more reports in the future from reply's.
Hey atleast there is someone else 11 here, sup. Well i wanted to point out Vexen's name was Even *atleast i believe it was in the ansem reports*
Namine
12-10-2006, 11:07 AM
Wow.. now i really want to have kingdom hearts3!! But does anyone know what year kingdom hearts is coming out?:confused:
Keyblade_master UK
12-10-2006, 11:26 AM
Wow.. now i really want to have kingdom hearts3!! But does anyone know what year kingdom hearts is coming out?:confused:
Not for a long time, Nomura is assistant director and Character design/concept of FF vs 13. So, Nomura is tied down to make any KH sequel.
So, really. No kh for about 6 years, unless a different company takes up a side story, like chain of memories
I think it will most likely be out around November or December of 09...They havent really started on it due to the KH team working on some FF titles...
(Edit: Sorry keyblade_master UK, i didnt see your post before...also your not suppost to have links in your sig, id remove it before a mod/admin sees it)
The_True_Keyblader
12-10-2006, 02:59 PM
I think it will most likely be out around November or December of 09...They havent really started on it due to the KH team working on some FF titles...
(Edit: Sorry keyblade_master UK, i didnt see your post before...also your not suppost to have links in your sig, id remove it before a mod/admin sees it)
AND they are working on KH2:FM
Keyblade_master UK
12-10-2006, 03:04 PM
I think it will most likely be out around November or December of 09...They havent really started on it due to the KH team working on some FF titles...
(Edit: Sorry keyblade_master UK, i didnt see your post before...also your not suppost to have links in your sig, id remove it before a mod/admin sees it)
Actually that was ment to be a Piccie for my sig. But I can't seem to show it. Well, I'll remove it and please show me how to show it
Well im not sure, the forum might not allow sig pictures...i just tried to image wrap it and it didnt work so im not sure if we can or what...its probably the same thing as the avatars, have to have so many post or be a member for so long...
It’s been announced that due to development on Final Fantasy XIII, KH3 will be released sometime within 2008-9.
Due to their previous 'punctuality issues', I would expect it to be a year or two later than their announcement date, but we'll have to see.
AND they are working on KH2:FM
As far as I know, KHII: FM+ will be released in Japan with CoM in February or March. I have no clue if and/or when they’ll be released in America or Europe. But as they’re making KHII: FM+ with the English voices with Japanese subtitles, I’m guessing it’ll at least go to America. It will include a longer version of the current Secret Ending.
YukenWolfpaws
12-11-2006, 12:24 AM
This is too good of a series to be put off the side... (I really wanna curse) FF can be put off to the side, I mean that's just stupid if we have to wait for our sequels that means the FF fans can wait too! Again I just think its stupid because of the long wait... 2009? 2011? NO! I will not stand for it! How 'bout you brothers and sisters!
Although I don't want to wait either, I'm also a massive Final Fantasy Fan, and we had to wait just as long for XII and XIII to come out as we did for KH2 to come out.
Sora Jr.
12-11-2006, 01:03 AM
Namine, from what i heard *don't take my word for it* KH3 might be out in general around 2008 and 2009. But i have also heard some stuff that could make the release date later...:confused:
Lachrymose_xX
12-11-2006, 11:50 AM
A friend of mine told me it was going to come out in three years. I find that hard to believe because ANOTHER friend of mine told me it takes almost five years to make all the expressions, moves, etc. etc. So. I don't know on that one.
Another thing; I've seen a picture from Kingdom Hearts 3 [Randomly on Photobucket] and it showed one of the knights, but his face guard was shattered and you could see half of his face. It definately looked like Sora, He looked like he was 20 or 21. O_O
But I could be wrong. It just looked EXACTLY like him. Eh. Who knows though.
I want to know if it's him though >__<
Sephiroth
12-11-2006, 08:57 PM
Guys , Lets get back to the story and what might happen. In the end of Kingdom Hearts 2 , we see that Sora and co. have recieved a bottle of Mickey so that might be a clue that sora is staying in the next game. But when sora and co. was in "the world that never was" , we see Maleficent and Pete battling the heartless and we all know that the heartless side with the strongest. so i have two clues , 1. that maleificant had taken over the castle and 2. she gained back control of the heartless and the nobodies.
There my views and i dont now if there true but what do you guys think?
Dark Riku
12-11-2006, 10:14 PM
Thats a good theory but it's kinda far from the Secret Ending from KH2
If you havnt seen it, you really should.. It can kind of give you an idea of what
KH3 might be about
Now, I have a pretty good feeling that Maleficent and Pete will be causing some
trouble in KH3 but probly not to much trouble seeing how the KH Team has to
cover the Keyblade War. They'll have a pretty big challenge to face with fitting in
some of the old villians into. Now im not saying that they couldnt play a role in
the Keyblade war.. In fact I would be suprised if they became the dark chasers allies..
but we'll see..
i recommend you to watch the Secret Ending. you could find it off google, under videos.
If the game is set in the past, then the message in the bottle and Maleficent and Pete wouldn't play a part at all. However, the interview revealed that we have to work out for ourselves what the expressions at the letter mean:
“I was troubled for a very long time on whether I should show the letter’s contents or not, and in the end I decided to let people speculate it themselves. You can guess what’s in the letter by looking at those three’s facial expressions: Sora looking at it blankly, Riku smirking and Kairi looking slightly worried. If it was just a “Hello, it’s been awhile”, they would be smiling instead so at least it’s hinted it is not that kind of simple letter.”
And also:
“Did that scene happen in the future or in the past?”
“I would at least say it’s an episode in the past, but…. Hmm, how should I say this? It’s in the past but you can also think it’s in the future, something like that.”
Surely that would mean that the game is set in the future (which means Sora, Riku and Kairi would be included), and the Secret Ending is showing a 'flashback' of the Keyblade War. Just a thought.
Sephiroth
12-11-2006, 11:32 PM
you could try and speculate the ending. looking at the key blade war (thanks 4 the secret ending) maybe a person ike micky could have sealed them in another realm (like he did with pete). that cud be possible and maybe sora , riku and Mickys recent uses of the keyblades might have triggered something or unlocked the realm. maybe the characters went with them too seal them like a sacrafice!. the hooded guy ... hmmm.... cud be an adult sora on a diffrent world... god mi head hurts.
YukenWolfpaws
12-12-2006, 12:08 AM
Lachrymose_xX Could you possibly post some links to these pictures? And I would think that the FF fans have enough games to be busy with, but I could be wrong and unless there are some diehard fans staying home from school or work and just playing for 12 or more hours and beating the games. But again if there are. I just would like to see more of KH games, because there probably would be only 3 and FF has like 20 or more.
YukenWolfpaws
12-12-2006, 12:14 AM
you could try and speculate the ending. looking at the key blade war (thanks 4 the secret ending) maybe a person ike micky could have sealed them in another realm (like he did with pete). that cud be possible and maybe sora , riku and Mickys recent uses of the keyblades might have triggered something or unlocked the realm. maybe the characters went with them too seal them like a sacrafice!. the hooded guy ... hmmm.... cud be an adult sora on a diffrent world... god mi head hurts.
My cousin and I were talking about this, how KH3 could be set in the past before Mickey destroyed the many blades and only left three, and how if KH3 was set in the past would be related to DMC3, being the prelude. But I could also be wrong. Also we were talking about another one on this thread I believe said 'roxas being soras spirit thing.' Like a past life in the keyblade war and roxas, namanai, and Riku's nobody would be battling in the war and when they were defeated the end of the war had not ended and the souls were reborn into the three... Thats crazy yes, but also a good idea.
Oiishi neko o tabete!
12-12-2006, 01:54 AM
Another thing; I've seen a picture from Kingdom Hearts 3 [Randomly on Photobucket] and it showed one of the knights, but his face guard was shattered and you could see half of his face. It definately looked like Sora, He looked like he was 20 or 21. O_O
It's most likely a fake picture, since they havn't began working on Kingdom Hearts 3 yet.
So, really. No kh for about 6 years, unless a different company takes up a side story, like chain of memories
I don't think it will take them that long, for a new story that is. If it does I'm going to kill a bunch of cows and put a bloodcurse on him. *Sarcasm*
Thirdly, have you people noticed that the keyblades in the middle are Sora's, Riku's and Kairi's? Sorry if someone already posted this. (Kinda just skimmed..)
Dark Riku
12-12-2006, 05:07 AM
It's most likely a fake picture, since they havn't began working on Kingdom Hearts 3 yet.
I don't think it will take them that long, for a new story that is. If it does I'm going to kill a bunch of cows and put a bloodcurse on him. *Sarcasm*
Thirdly, have you people noticed that the keyblades in the middle are Sora's, Riku's and Kairi's? Sorry if someone already posted this. (Kinda just skimmed..)
ok i took a look at the picture and its hard to say if its a fake or not.
if its a fake, then its a VERY good fake!
but then again there are Japanese words on the left and what looks like a health
meter on the bottom left.
but something i noticed was when i compared that picture and a picture of the first chaser holding the largest Keyblade.
there armor and helm are the same..
could this mean Sora is a Chaser, but was reborn as a child??
what about the other chasers? could Riku, Kairi, and Sora be chasers that were
reborn as children years later with no memory of there past??
maybe the chaser is an ansestor of Soras??
haha, the theorys build and build... It'll be good when KH3 finally comes out
Namine
12-12-2006, 06:47 AM
Namine, from what i heard *don't take my word for it* KH3 might be out in general around 2008 and 2009. But i have also heard some stuff that could make the release date later...:confused:
Well I hope that it is coming out 2007 instead!:)
Lachrymose_xX
12-12-2006, 12:19 PM
The picture I saw kinda looks like it might be a shot scanned from a magazine from Japan or something.
It's really hard for me to say it's fake. It doesn't look like a fake. [The same thing as DarkRiku said.]
Anddd Someone asked for a link::
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/Lachrymose_xX/V-Jump_L1.jpg
That's all I got.
Another thing; I've seen a picture from Kingdom Hearts 3 [Randomly on Photobucket] and it showed one of the knights, but his face guard was shattered and you could see half of his face. It definately looked like Sora, He looked like he was 20 or 21. O_O
But I could be wrong. It just looked EXACTLY like him. Eh. Who knows though.
I want to know if it's him though >__<
It's most likely a fake picture, since they havn't began working on Kingdom Hearts 3 yet.
It's not a fake, it was released in a Japanese magazine as a screenshot of something in KHII:FM+, but it's definitely not Sora, as confirmed from Nomura. So I'm guessing it's in the Secret Ending in KHII:FM+ and it's possibly someone related to Sora. (Some people thought the Blonde Haired Kid from Deep Dive was Sora, but it was Roxas - who is Sora in a way) I personally think it looks closer to Leon with blue eyes instead of brown, but I doubt it.
Here are three of the magazine screenshots - the third includes the Photobucket picture:
http://www.khinsider.com/joomla/images//gmagafm02.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/joomla/images//fm02.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/uporg514051.jpg
Thirdly, have you people noticed that the keyblades in the middle are Sora's, Riku's and Kairi's? Sorry if someone already posted this. (Kinda just skimmed..)
Sorry to tell ya, thousands of people have noticed. Fenrir's in there too.
Sephiroth
12-12-2006, 02:36 PM
The picture I saw kinda looks like it might be a shot scanned from a magazine from Japan or something.
It's really hard for me to say it's fake. It doesn't look like a fake. [The same thing as DarkRiku said.]
Anddd Someone asked for a link::
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/Lachrymose_xX/V-Jump_L1.jpg
That's all I got.
there focusing on COH remake , maybe its the secret ending for that game!
the theory for "sora's ancestors" would bring up to many ideas. like who the hell did sora make a baby with? same with riku and i dont think micky grows about 10 foot since in the KH2 secret ending the person who picks it up , clearly does not resemble mick in anyway. we have to think beyond the lines. who havent we said? the identaties of these people could already be known. we just dont know it yet. think people think!!!!
the identaties of these people could already be known.
Nomura has confirmed they're completely new characters and we haven't seen them before. I think the main one's a guy and the other two are girls, with the pic showing the guy.
Ashi-chan
12-12-2006, 05:10 PM
You make a very good point.
But here's one thing I thought of:
When they spoke of the keybearer, they spoke of one that brought peace, and one that brought chaos. Perhaps this is the one that did that. Unfortunately, we won't know until it comes out (and I'm sure it will).
They've already spoke of the "good" Keybearer. What about the other?
Namine
12-12-2006, 05:46 PM
Why is Sora not going to be in Kh3!?
Sephiroth
12-12-2006, 06:09 PM
Why is Sora not going to be in Kh3!?
where not sure if he is or isnt. he should be because people will want to know what that letter said in the normal ending of KH2. so i guess sora , riku and kairi arnt gone 4 good.
Namine
12-12-2006, 06:12 PM
where not sure if he is or isnt. he should be because people will want to know what that letter said in the normal ending of KH2. so i guess sora , riku and kairi arnt gone 4 good.
Well, I want Sora to be in Kh3! Does anybody agree?
Sephiroth
12-12-2006, 06:17 PM
Well, I want Sora to be in Kh3! Does anybody agree?
well i dowt he will be gotten rid off. everyone likes sora!!
Namine
12-12-2006, 06:19 PM
well i dowt he will be gotten rid off. everyone likes sora!!
Yeah, I know!:p
anxiety0123
12-12-2006, 08:45 PM
this picture here looks like it is sora & he is wearing the same suite from
the secret ending on KH2. hmmm
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/anxiety0123/sora.jpg
Oiishi neko o tabete!
12-12-2006, 09:06 PM
Edit: I need to learn to read the whole thing before posting. @_@
Sephiroth
12-12-2006, 10:53 PM
looking at that picture it looks as if hes battling someone. it could be that cloaked guy. so many theorys!
Oiishi neko o tabete!
12-13-2006, 12:54 AM
looking at that picture it looks as if hes battling someone. it could be that cloaked guy. so many theorys!
There's more than one cloaked guy.. And you find out who all of them are exept one, I think.
There are 16 cloaked guys (not including the one in the Secret Ending), 13 are members of the Organisation, 1 is King Mickey, 1 is Riku as Xehanort, and the last is the Enigmatic Man from Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix who was apparently the central cloaked figure when 5 of them appear in Twilight Town and Hollow Bastion in KH2.
As I pointed out in a different post, Nomura decided not to show us what was actually in the letter but let us guess for ourselves from the expressions on their faces. The interview also explains that there are elements of the future and the past, and I still think that the Secret Ending is showing the past but KH3 (although it may not be called "Kingdom Hearts III" apparently) will be set in the future with Sora and the gang.
Namine
12-13-2006, 03:09 PM
this picture here looks like it is sora & he is wearing the same suite from
the secret ending on KH2. hmmm
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/anxiety0123/sora.jpg
Well it could be Sora, or maybe it's his brother or something.
by_sleep
12-13-2006, 03:35 PM
its got to be sora if not then the entire first two games would be just well void have no point and besides brown hair blue eyes its got to be:mad: if not squar will pay buahahahaha:D
by_sleep
12-13-2006, 03:38 PM
There are 16 cloaked guys (not including the one in the Secret Ending), 13 are members of the Organisation, 1 is King Mickey, 1 is Riku as Xehanort, and the last is the Enigmatic Man from Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix who was apparently the central cloaked figure when 5 of them appear in Twilight Town and Hollow Bastion in KH2.
As I pointed out in a different post, Nomura decided not to show us what was actually in the letter but let us guess for ourselves from the expressions on their faces. The interview also explains that there are elements of the future and the past, and I still think that the Secret Ending is showing the past but KH3 (although it may not be called "Kingdom Hearts III" apparently) will be set in the future with Sora and the gang.
were do you get final mix XD ive looked everywere
:confused:
Namine
12-13-2006, 04:46 PM
its got to be sora if not then the entire first two games would be just well void have no point and besides brown hair blue eyes its got to be:mad: if not squar will pay buahahahaha:D
Yes, it can be SORA, or someone else. Now I want Kh3!:D
sandriz
12-13-2006, 07:47 PM
I wouldn't expect the game before 2011. Since they're working on teh Fabula Nova Chrystallis:FFvsXIII which is going to be released 2008/2009... they'll probably start making the game after that TT;;
AND, Tetsuya Nomura DID say (about the only thing he's said about KH3) that Sora is NOT among the persons in the secret ending.
Number XIII
12-13-2006, 08:28 PM
Hi every1! I'm new here :D
If u look closely, u can see that it's only the three keyblades in the middle that have keychains. And isn't it the keychains that gives the powers to the
keyblade(s)? Maybe the others are replicas created by some1 who wished to gain the keyblade's power, but was not chosen by the real keyblade(s)? And perhaps a lot of others made replicas as well, and then they made alliances and clashed together in the keyblade war.
As u can see, the "main" chaser's keyblade don't have a keychain. Perhaps the chasers have made the replicas (if they are replicas).
And another thing: The Organization members' nobodies have been obliterated, but what about their Heartlesses? Could they be the chasers? The Heartlesses of the Organization (minus Xehonorth's and Roxas')? Perhaps they too seek to be whole, and therefore seeks a way to unite with their obliterated bodies? We've seen dead characters come back to live in KH before (Maleficent).
Maybe the chasers seek a way to claim or make a pure/true/real keyblade to unlock Kingdom Hearts?
The theories are many :)
What do u think?
were do you get final mix XD ive looked everywere
:confused:
You can't, it was only ever released in Japan. I haven't played it but I've seen every extra cutscene and battle with translations from the game.
Yes, it can be SORA, or someone else. Now I want Kh3!:D
It's definitely not one of the knights from the CURRENT Secret Ending, but there's an outside chance that it's a fourth knight that is Sora. I think it's more likely to be someone related to Sora though.
I wouldn't expect the game before 2011. Since they're working on teh Fabula Nova Chrystallis:FFvsXIII which is going to be released 2008/2009... they'll probably start making the game after that TT;;
It's been announced that FFXII's games will be release 2007/8 and KH3 will be released 2008/9, but as I've mentioned before, due to their 'punctuality history', I wouldn't expect it until 2010-12
If u look closely, u can see that it's only the three keyblades in the middle that have keychains. And isn't it the keychains that gives the powers to the
keyblade(s)? Maybe the others are replicas created by some1 who wished to gain the keyblade's power, but was not chosen by the real keyblade(s)? And perhaps a lot of others made replicas as well, and then they made alliances and clashed together in the keyblade war.
As u can see, the "main" chaser's keyblade don't have a keychain. Perhaps the chasers have made the replicas (if they are replicas).
The other two 'chasers' are also holding Keychainless Keyblades when they go to pick up the ones in the centre.
And another thing: The Organization members' nobodies have been obliterated, but what about their Heartlesses? Could they be the chasers?
I'm pretty sure they're not chasers, 6 of them worked for Ansem. Take a look at the Ansem Reports lol. We know what happened to Roxas' (as Sora) and Xemnas' (as Xehanort pretending to be Ansem) Heartless, and I've thought in the past that the shadowy figure in the Secret Ending could be one of the other ones.
by_sleep
12-14-2006, 12:06 AM
ooooo the plot thickens and if this game dosnet have sora and the original chars im going to burn the entire shipment of the pos buahahahahahahahahahahaa the rebirth by sleep i think thet the fakes are trying to use the key blades to put everyone into trances with like a virtual world
the rebirth by sleep i think thet the fakes are trying to use the key blades to put everyone into trances with like a virtual world
Do you watch the Matrix much? ;) lol
by_sleep
12-14-2006, 12:42 AM
XD i said theroy and no ive only seen the 1st one once never seen the others and think about it when the entire background behind the guy dissapperes
uneek
12-14-2006, 05:41 AM
i was surfing the net and i found a pic of what looks to be one of the armoured people in the secret ending except their helmet is smashed and you can see part of his face...and it looks like sora i reckon anyway..but when hes atleast 20 years old..but it could also be a fake since tetsuya nomura has confirmed that the 3 armoured people are completely new characters.
Number XIII
12-14-2006, 01:43 PM
"I'm pretty sure they're not chasers, 6 of them worked for Ansem. Take a look at the Ansem Reports lol. We know what happened to Roxas' (as Sora) and Xemnas' (as Xehanort pretending to be Ansem) Heartless, and I've thought in the past that the shadowy figure in the Secret Ending could be one of the other ones"
Riku. The fact that 6 of them worked for Ansem when they where whole, do not mean that they can't be the chasers when they are heartlesses.
Personally, I doubt that the shadowy figure is one of the Organization members' heartless. It just doesn't fit. 'Cause who is it then? Axel? Marluxia? Nah.. I think the shadowy figure has something to do with Xehanort... I just don't know what ;)
i was surfing the net and i found a pic of what looks to be one of the armoured people in the secret ending except their helmet is smashed and you can see part of his face...and it looks like sora i reckon anyway..but when hes atleast 20 years old..but it could also be a fake since tetsuya nomura has confirmed that the 3 armoured people are completely new characters.
Have you looked at any of the rest of this Rumours forum? Please do - It's not fake.
Riku. The fact that 6 of them worked for Ansem when they where whole, do not mean that they can't be the chasers when they are heartlesses.
True, but Keyblades unlock people's hearts, creating Heartless and Nobodies. That would mean the Heartless and Nobodies didn't exist before Keyblades were created. If Chasers are the creators of the Keyblades, then the Chasers themselves couldn't be Heartless. I admit that some or all of the 6 that worked for Ansem COULD have been Chasers when they were whole (with a heart) before they worked for him.
Personally, I doubt that the shadowy figure is one of the Organization members' heartless. It just doesn't fit. 'Cause who is it then? Axel? Marluxia? Nah.. I think the shadowy figure has something to do with Xehanort... I just don't know what ;)
I would think the most likely people it could be are Zexion or Xehanort when he was whole. But I don't know either lol
Number XIII
12-14-2006, 02:44 PM
True, but Keyblades unlock people's hearts, creating Heartless and Nobodies. That would mean the Heartless and Nobodies didn't exist before Keyblades were created. If Chasers are the creators of the Keyblades, then the Chasers themselves couldn't be Heartless. I admit that some or all of the 6 that worked for Ansem COULD have been Chasers when they were whole (with a heart) before they worked for him.
I would think the most likely people it could be are Zexion or Xehanort when he was whole. But I don't know either lol
I don't say that the chasers have created the keyblades. I say that they might be making replicas. Keyblades without the keychains that gives them power. And we don't know that this is in the past, so the shadowy figure don't need to be a person who is "whole". But it might be Zexion :)
KytaEternal
12-14-2006, 02:50 PM
I don't say that the chasers have created the keyblades. I say that they might be making replicas. Keyblades without the keychains that gives them power. And we don't know that this is in the past, so the shadowy figure don't need to be a person who is "whole". But it might be Zexion :)
Who's Zexion...? And it says 'Memories of Xehanort', so he has something to do with the next game. Meh, I can#t think of anything else.
I don't say that the chasers have created the keyblades. I say that they might be making replicas. Keyblades without the keychains that gives them power. And we don't know that this is in the past, so the shadowy figure don't need to be a person who is "whole". But it might be Zexion :)
lol I know it doesn't have to be whole, I meant Xehanort when he was whole as he it couldn't be while he was a Heartless or a Nobody. And you're right, it could be the Second Keyblade War. A definition of a Chaser from Dictionary.com is:
One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing.
Now most people thinks that means the Chasers could have been the original creators of the Keyblades (as did I until just now), but it says someone who decorates metal, which means that the Chasers could be the people who fashioned the Keyblade shapes themselves, but NOT who gave them the powers - which are apparently held in the Keychains, and as such some unknown person was needed to create the Keychains. So it would be the Keychains that are "good" and "evil", not the Keyblades themselves. The other thousands of Keyblades in the Secret Ending could therefore be useful if Keychains were attached to them. They don't have to be fake.
Who's Zexion...? And it says 'Memories of Xehanort', so he has something to do with the next game. Meh, I can#t think of anything else.
Zexion was Member VI of Organisation XIII, and he was originally Ansem the Wise's youngest lab assistant and test subject, under the name of Ienzo. He was the one that convinced Ansem the Wise that they should expand the horizons of their research. He never fought anyone and disappeared from Castle Oblivion in Chain of Memories after Riku's Replica killed him.
If the Secret Ending shows the past, it could be Zexion as the shadowy figure, and Xehanort will be involved. Zexion is the only Organisation without a weapon, and Nomura wants to keep him as the most mysterious member. Based on that, I'd say that Zexion will be at least mentioned in Kingdom Hearts III.
Number XIII
12-14-2006, 03:07 PM
Hmm.. u might be right, Riku... at least it sounds cool :D
KytaEternal
12-14-2006, 03:11 PM
Aah! I've just realised I haven't read the Ansem's Reports in KH2! Bbl!
Another part of the interview:
"In the World that Never Was, Xigbar said to Sora "Compared to the ones before this, you're weaker"; does that mean he's comparing Sora to previous Keyblade wielders before him?"
"Yes, he was. I was hinting "Xigbar has met other Keyblade wielders before." As for something more than that... I'll leave it to your imagination."
So Xigbar will most likely play a part in KH3 as well lol
SquareISKing
12-14-2006, 07:16 PM
This picture everyone keeps referring to is in fact a snapshot of the extended secret ending in KH2 FM+. (Read a translation from a Japanese magazine) Sorry if this has been said before, I just kinda skimmed through.
Yes it has and 3 magazines lol.
uneek
12-15-2006, 01:49 AM
to the secret ending of kingdom hearts 1..the secret ending only showed a part of what would happen in kingdom hearts 2, so maybe there doing the same thing where they just show a part of what will happen in number 3?
Actually the Ending of Kingdom Hearts I didn't really show anything apart from Roxas walking through the rain with lots of Neo Heartless and Riku with a blindfold. It wasn't until Final Mix that that seen was extended and the 13 Points Chart was shown. You're right, the Secret Ending showed a very small part of what happened during Sora's sleep, shown in Kingdom Hearts II.
I'm guessing that Sunset Horizons is showing a short scene now, and in Final Mix+ a longer version of that scene will be shown. As Deep Dive was a "flashback" in Kingdom Hearts II, I think that this Secret Ending will be a flashback in Kingdom Hearts III. We'll have to see.
I still think Deep Dive was one of the most awesome game vids I've ever seen though lol. Does anyone know what the red stuff in the vid is? That's the only unexplained part.
10th Legion
12-15-2006, 06:59 PM
Here's what I've deduced :
1. It will be totally sweet if the game takes place during a keyblade war before the 1st game like everyone says. Monsterous battle fields with keyblade wielders locked in epic duels. SWEET!
2. If this is true a 4th game will be needed to tell the fate of Sora and friends.
3. We may be barely keep ourselves from getting an M rating. Think about it, hundreds of ketblade wielders hewing each other down, that could be some serious gore there.
4. The heartless will be runing wild, at the begining of their reign of terror and will quite likely be masterless, unless we learn of their creator.
5. We won't see very many familiar characters due to the fact that it'll be before their time.
Please consider what I have said.
2. If this is true a 4th game will be needed to tell the fate of Sora and friends.
A 5th game lol. You're forgetting Chain of Memories.
4. The heartless will be runing wild, at the begining of their reign of terror and will quite likely be masterless, unless we learn of their creator.
The Heartless were created by having their hearts removed from their bodies using a Keyblade, so whoever "created" them would have been the first wielder of a Keyblade.
Also, the Kingdom Hearts team were gonna scrap the 1000 Heartless battle in Kingdom Hearts II because they couldn't get it right, programming and graphics. But after working night and day for weeks they finally did, just working on that one battle. Now however cool it would be to be battling in a battlefield with thousands of Heartless and Keyblade Wielders, bear in mind that the KH team will have to work through the roof to get that right.
Other than that, hell yeah! Bring it on :)
10th Legion
12-15-2006, 07:12 PM
I doubt all the keyblade wielders will be on the same side. I forsee some awesome keyblade duels, if not battles between armies of them.
Demyx
12-16-2006, 03:39 PM
Guess who I'm back again. Sorry for not posting anything sooner, but what I posted seems to have really kicked off everybody's thoughts on kingdom hearts 3. Of course nomuro (I think that's his name, but I still can't remember) said it's gonna take in the past, and the secret ending to kingdom hearts 2 (I put the words and there meanings in my last report) indicate a lot, so I will be posting more shortly after I research more into it. Thnx (*_*)
Demyx
12-16-2006, 04:02 PM
As you know if you've read my last report, which included 7 sections on rumors, truths, and some very cool things. If you read my last report you will also find out that I am 11, never played kingdom hearts chain of memories, or finished kh2 thnx to my crappy PS2. However I did put a lot out last time and I hope to do just as good this time. So lets get started.
Ansem reports- There are 12 ansem reports, but the secret #0 ansem report makes 13. I've read all of them and here's what I have to say.
ansem report 0 (or 1 to some)- This is the only one he wrote as said in the ansem report #1 (or 2, but for now on I'm gonna go from 2 to 3 and not say "3 or 2"). He say's that ansem report 0 was the only one he had written. But in the first ansem report he talks about Xehanort and his great potinetial, his experiments on the darkness of the heart, and also talks about, and I quote,"My many efforts these many years have come to fruition, with the world I govern having become a paradise worthy of being called "Radiant Garden." Nutured by the pure water that is the source of life, fragrant flowers bloom in abundance, and the people each day with hopeful smiles. But where there is light, darness also lurks. As noted in my earlier reports, I most solve the mystery of this "Darkness of the Heart." So only one he wrote, eh. This is interesting wouldn't ya say? Well he talks about darkness of the heart which can be compared to something ansem said that goes something like this, "Darkness lurks in the core of every world" or somewhat. I'll take my time however posting these since this one might not have the great importance and rumorusness I put in the last one. Tell me if you want me to go on and if you do want me I will makesure to take my time on writing these reports.
Rukusodo
12-16-2006, 04:03 PM
I do not concieve the cracked knight face being Sora...
The shadow at the end of the secret ending looks like a tall Sora with a keyblade held over his shoulder behind his back almost smiling. The knights look suprised.
Sora, Kairi and Riku aren't in that vid according to Nomura (not Nomuro)
Ansem reports- There are 12 ansem reports, but the secret #0 ansem report makes 13. I've read all of them and here's what I have to say.
ansem report 0 (or 1 to some)- This is the only one he wrote as said in the ansem report #1 (or 2, but for now on I'm gonna go from 2 to 3 and not say "3 or 2"). He say's that ansem report 0 was the only one he had written.
They're numbered 0-12 in Japan and 1-13 in America/UK. They're all Ansem Reports which were written by Xehanort except the first as you say which was written by Ansem the Wise. Ansem wrote Secret Ansem Reports #1-13 (#0-12 in Japan), and in number #2 (#1 in Japan) is referred to number 0 being the only one he wrote.
Of course nomuro (I think that's his name, but I still can't remember) said it's gonna take in the past
From the interview:
Did that scene happen in the future or in the past?
I would at least say it's an episode in the past, but.... Hmm, how should I say this? It's in the past but you can also think it's in the future, something like that.
So we don't know about that. As I've mentioned before I think that the game will be set in the future with flashbacks to the past.
riku13
12-16-2006, 07:07 PM
well actually i love the info but i know what birth by sleep means. The letter that sora kairi and riku got from king mickey sais that xemnas was reborn by someone and rumor has it that he was reborn by riku somehow but i think kh3 will contain new worlds in the past since there was as keyblade war. I also think the three armored ppl might have something to do with sora kairi and riku but i also think the armored dude in the middle, has something to do with defeating xemnas. Basically in the letter after he was reborn he remembered before he was ansems assistant. He was a keyblade master.
Dark_Sora
12-16-2006, 07:10 PM
i would like to see a pic of these armored people , i havent completed the jounal yet, 90% =\ , so if the armoured people where in the extra scene i havnt seen them yet so can i get a picture of them?
I'm guessing you don't want to see the whole ending until you complete the game, so here's a screenshot of them:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1059/3knightsdk0.png
And a screenshot with Fenrir:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3835/3knightsandfenrirfn7.png
Enjoy! :)
Dark_Sora
12-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Ive beat the game. Ive beat KHI KHII and KH:COM , but i dont remeber seing the three warriors..
You need to complete Jiminy's Journal 100% on Standard Mode, or just unlock every world including 100 Acre Wood in Proud Mode to unlock the Secret Ending at the end of the credits. The vid is also in lots of different places around the internet.
Dark_Sora
12-16-2006, 09:15 PM
ok, i just have another 10% to go =\, but i dont think i can finish it cuz theres one chest in twilight town that u can only get when you first become sora (i think) and i didnt get it, mostly i only have to do missons , and some chests.
In that case you may have a problem lol. I'd play the game again on Proud Mode anyway - It's cooler! :)
Demyx
12-16-2006, 10:42 PM
The three keybklades stuck in the ground at the middle of the cross roads are mickey's sora's, and riku's. The fenrir is in there which is really cool. And if there were some of the other key blades in with the rest just you can't see that would be cool. Anyways go to Youtube.com and type in at the search bar, "Kingdom Hearts 2 Secret Ending" and there's one with no sound so if you get that one just go to a different vid.
uneek
12-17-2006, 07:51 AM
i agree with riku in how kingdom hearts 3 will be in the future and show flashbacks to the past, when it said ''keyblade war'' i think it will show a keyblade war that happened in the past and also have 1 in the future, which sora will fight in
10th Legion
12-17-2006, 09:21 PM
One thing I've noticed is alot ( but not all) people think simple because Sora, Riku, and Kairi aren't the 3 armored people that they won't be in KH3. That would have little bearing. The video is the first of a game that's barely begun development, its only going to display some of the very first ideas.
Roxas
12-18-2006, 09:07 PM
Yno im beginning to wonder a couple of things. ok, we no tht kh3 will b set about da past it may not b in it but we no tht its about. 2ndly ive just 4rt of soamt wel its got soamt 2 do wiv the memory of Xehanort rite? Well, remember in KH2 Ansem the wise found Xehanort as a boy remember personally i think that has got soamt 2 do wiv Xehanorts memory but i am 99.99999% certain tht the person in the shadows is Xehanort BUT da problem is tht picture of Sora in the armour thts buggin me. i got da same pic but on here da pics different it has japanese writing. wot does it say???? I think we all need 2 work REALLLLY hard 2 find out where tht picture came from personally i blive its a fake bt if it is a gd 1 at tht:cool: but it doesnt make any sense. oh hang on wait. Noromuya ( if thts spelt correctly) said tht he has designed the faces of the 3 armoure people rite? wot about da 4th tht CUD b sora bt i still think its Xehanort
Yno im beginning to wonder a couple of things. ok, we no tht kh3 will b set about da past
Well we know that it'll probably mention the past at least lol.
tht picture of Sora in the armour thts buggin me. i got da same pic but on here da pics different it has japanese writing. wot does it say???? I think we all need 2 work REALLLLY hard 2 find out where tht picture came from personally i blive its a fake bt if it is a gd 1 at tht:cool: but it doesnt make any sense.
I'll answer this with my own post on this exact same thread:
It's not a fake, it was released in a Japanese magazine as a screenshot of something in KHII:FM+, but it's definitely not Sora, as confirmed from Nomura. So I'm guessing it's in the Secret Ending in KHII:FM+ and it's possibly someone related to Sora. (Some people thought the Blonde Haired Kid from Deep Dive was Sora, but it was Roxas - who is Sora in a way) I personally think it looks closer to Leon with blue eyes instead of brown, but I doubt it.
Here are three of the magazine screenshots - the third includes the Photobucket picture:
http://www.khinsider.com/joomla/images//gmagafm02.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/joomla/images//fm02.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/uporg514051.jpg
Noromuya ( if thts spelt correctly) said tht he has designed the faces of the 3 armoure people rite? wot about da 4th tht CUD b sora bt i still think its Xehanort
It's Nomura and I highly doubt the fourth is Sora.
Roxas
12-18-2006, 09:41 PM
Can u change ur name from 'Riku' to 'riku the wise' plz bcus u r like a god on KH:) lmao. Oh yh 1 more thing erm wel i no this sounds a bit wierd but do u think Xenmas has a heart? n iz this rite, Xehanorts nobody is Xenmas and his heartless is ansem????
Not quite. All Nobodies haven't got hearts, so Xemnas (being Xehanort's nobody) had no Heart. Xehanort's nobody was Xehanort, but he pretended to be Ansem (just by name). Ansem the Wise hasn't been Xehanort at all.
Second time I've been called a god today :) I'm liking this lol
Roxas
12-18-2006, 09:48 PM
Lol cud u help me i got some pics 2 attatch 2 me letter but they aint comin up do u no how 2 help????
To your letter? lol If you mean your post then you need to get them on the internet. I use imageshack. Then use the "IMG" and "/IMG" tags (in square brackets []) with the links to the images to post on here. :)
angelofdarkeness
12-18-2006, 10:55 PM
One thing I've noticed is alot ( but not all) people think simple because Sora, Riku, and Kairi aren't the 3 armored people that they won't be in KH3. That would have little bearing. The video is the first of a game that's barely begun development, its only going to display some of the very first ideas.
You're right. Nomura can do anything he wants with that trailer so who knows wat it could turn into.
ifearsnowmen
12-19-2006, 12:10 AM
well i agree if its a fake its a very good fake but that does look like sora a very older sora and i also think that would be a playstation 3 looking graphics and all
It's not fake and it's not Sora lol.
ifearsnowmen
12-19-2006, 12:21 AM
well that sucks do u have the link for that image on photo bucket
brandon3397
12-19-2006, 12:24 AM
In that case you may have a problem lol. I'd play the game again on Proud Mode anyway - It's cooler! :)
same here i beat the game 4 times it so kool i do not get the sceret ending birth by sleep:eek:
It's not a fake, it was released in a Japanese magazine as a screenshot of something in KHII:FM+, but it's definitely not Sora, as confirmed from Nomura. So I'm guessing it's in the Secret Ending in KHII:FM+ and it's possibly someone related to Sora. (Some people thought the Blonde Haired Kid from Deep Dive was Sora, but it was Roxas - who is Sora in a way) I personally think it looks closer to Leon with blue eyes instead of brown, but I doubt it.
Here are three of the magazine screenshots - the third includes the Photobucket picture:
http://www.khinsider.com/joomla/images//gmagafm02.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/joomla/images//fm02.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/uporg514051.jpg
There ya go.
uneek
12-19-2006, 05:53 AM
what if they make KH3 like KH2, where we are sora and the gang for a little bit in the start of the game and then it goes over to the armoured people. or the other way around where we are the armoured people at the start and sora later on in the game.
It'd probably be the latter based on the fact we had Roxas first in KH2, but we really have no clue.
RoxasvsRiku
12-19-2006, 03:18 PM
personally i think people are putting way too much stock in the secret ending of kh2 it was stated that when it was put in there wasnt talk of a second sequel so maybe it was put in because its cool
Roxas
12-19-2006, 09:01 PM
Hey, hang on theres somat missin. Xigbar knows about the keyblade war remember? 'picked a real dud this time'! wel they all pick up the keyblades of soras rikus n mickeys so how does Xigbar know about th war? n we do have any proof king mickey did? n another thing i read somewhere on this chatroom that when the keyblade was made the heartless were made n at the same time so technically doesnt tht make the keyblade bad? n i no this sounds crazy but wot IZ kingdom hearts exactly? not thte game i mean the realm its a big heart shaped world but when we fight Xenmas or Ansem exactly what IS that world n i dont get why all da bad guyz want it so bad?!?! Iz it bcus it gives them power or somat else plz fill me in!:)
THE Keyblade isn't bad because there are multiple Keyblades. Kingdom Hearts is the life of the Worlds (or the Hearts of the Kingdoms). The Hearts become more powerful when human hearts are unlocked by Keyblades and travel to Kingdom Hearts (similar to life energy passing into the Lifestream in FF7 when someone dies). The bad guys are Nobodies who have no hearts and so they want all the hearts they can get, which are in Kingdom Hearts. It's difficult to explain lol. If they could control those hearts they could use them however they wish, and as you say, it would give them power.
The big heart-shaped moon wasn't a world but just a mass collection of hearts (similar to Saturn's rings being just a massive collection of dust and rocks).
If I'm not mistaken (I probably am, I can't remember), Xigbar didn't mention the war but he did mention that there were other Keyblade Wielders. Either him or one of the other members.
King Mickey knows what Ansem the Wise knows. I'll see if I can find Ansem's speech at the World That Never Was and get back to you.
Darkcoda
12-20-2006, 06:00 AM
Well, norta dame is absolute a corse, the rest im not sure
Unkown-Aelix
12-21-2006, 03:03 PM
I think it took place in the past, and ive got a good theory to boot about whats in da letter dats in da bottle. and it goes along with their expresions.
The letter says something like:
Dear bla bla bla,
I've found something interesting in Ansem's library or watever. Just to give you a preview it talks about a Keyblade War, and who created the Keyblades. or something like that. Come quickly, i gotta show you bla bla bla. meh.
Bla bla bla,
Mickey
Sora is looking at it blankly cuz he dont get it (too much time with Ariel),
Riku is smirking cuz he think's itll be fun, a new adventure
Kairi is looking worried at the mention of "War" she dont want to loose anyone/see them hurt again.
there. Also, acoding to me theory, the secret ending is most likely to be a flash back. As the game progreses (wiht the disney worlds) there will be more and more flash backs to this time to reveal what happend. Eventually Sora will wind up in a huge library where the final climatic sceens of the war will take place.
Also, i wonder if it will have any other Keyblade weilders/masters besides Sora. I mean, who was the one before Sora? did he/she have a big adventure with disney worlds like sora? hmmmm. meh.
Also, Xigbar looks kinda old, which means that he has a lof of information about it cuz hes been around the longest or that he was around back then and remembers who they were/what happend. Maby whoever Xigbar's person was before he went Nobody was a Keyblade weilder. meh.
Say, im new, where are you people getting these awesom KH avatars?
adcrocks50
12-21-2006, 09:41 PM
WHAT WE KNOW
The characters are original and have not been seen in previous games. They are NOT Sora, Riku, Kairi.
There are a lot of keyblades, a war is coming or has passed.
The Crossroads are important.
Has something to do with the Keyblade bringing chaos.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
The identity of the armoured figures.
Who the distant outlined figure is.
The place in the Kingdom Hearts timeline this trailer takes place in.
What the text means by "birth by sleep".
These worlds are based on my own assumptions and predictions, they are to be considered rumors.
Kingdom Hearts III will continue to feature Disney related worlds since that is the main aspect of the game. Due to some new ownership and popular previous worlds, many new and old worlds will likely make a return.
Pixar Worlds
Pixar worlds are an absolute in Kingdom Hearts III. Previously, modern-classics like "Finding Nemo" and "Toy Story" were not featured in Kingdom Hearts because, despite the Disney name, were registered with Pixar, a seperate company. But since the development of Kingdom Hearts II, Disney finally bought Pixar. As a result, all Pixar characters and movies are under the Disney Empire and due to their critical and commercial success, it would be a missed opportunity not to have these characters featured in the next game.
Toy Story - "Andy and/or Sid's Room"
With new ownership over Pixar, we may see a new level where Sora and Co. are the size of toys, much like when you shrink in Wonderland in the first game.
The Incredibles - "Nomanisan Island"
Everyone remembers the secretly evil island from the Incredibles where the super-family spring back into action to take down the nasty Syndrome. It wouldn't be a long shot to say that Sora, Donald and Goofy might don some tights and help the family out in the next game.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
A world and characters that were heavily requested in Kingdom Hearts II but never made the cut. We may expect some appearances in the next game.
"100 Acre Wood"
The one world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II where no Heartless roam. In this world the player simply plays through simple mini-games. This has proved to be popular, especially since it is completely optional and provides a good game for younger players. Since it came back in KH2, it's likely it will come back once again.
"Olympus Colisseum"
The tournaments on the Olympus world have been favorites of fans since the first KH game. Being one of the most visited world in any of the games, it would be unheard of to exclude it from the next game.
New World - "Sand World"
The world visible in the Secret Trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II may be a world in the next title, considering the World That Never Was from Kingdom Hearts II was featured in the Secret Trailer from the first Kingdom Hearts.
"Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden"
Being the very most important world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II, being the root of all evil and good, it's quite likely that it will play another large part in the next game. Probably being the world that is safe to return to at any time full of shops like Traverse Town or Twilight Town.
"Destiny Islands"
Since this is where the characters were last left off, it's almost impossible for the game to not begin here. And with the game likely being on Playstation 3, it's an excellent place to present the amazing new graphics. A world full of palm trees, sand, water, a nice sunset/rise and a quite little village.
So i hope you enjoyed all that ! :D :D
tell me how you feel.
Timker bell, nice way to exactly quote and pladerize of of kingdomhearts.rpgplanet.gamespy.com/:eek:
We know, ignore that lol. Read the other 10 pages (except utut0's rants)
Unkown-Aelix
12-22-2006, 02:44 AM
plagerize. With a G.
meh now that you posted that people will ignore my letter theory!!! curses to you!! >.> meh oh well. I'll repost it if people do ignore it. meh.
KingMickey137
12-22-2006, 04:24 AM
don't know if anyone else posted this but.. we know that the three characters in "Sunset Horizons" are original and are not Sora, Riku, and Kairi.. but what if they're also not the main characters you play as... the creator *don't know his name* hasn't confirmed whether or not the game is a prequel or a sequel to the game
silentzimmer
12-22-2006, 06:25 AM
kingdom hearts 3 is said to be reveiled or delved into in 2007 late or early, noone knowz
Riku-Sora
12-22-2006, 06:34 AM
I am suprised that noone has said anyting yet that maybe the thrid game will start off being played in the past and then fastforward to the future.
The only reason I am thinking that is because of how we started out playing Kingdom Hearts II as Roxas.
KingMickey from best I know and read Sora is the main character still.
Crazyman
12-22-2006, 09:48 AM
My theory is that its kinda like The Matrix, if youve seen this before youll know what i mean
There are many Keyblade masters ove time, each being pursauded into the path of darkness, Sora is the first Keyblade master to actually use the power of heart. While all the others before him have fallen.
I dunno what the hell i am going on about... Haha
Unkown-Aelix
12-22-2006, 04:50 PM
I think it took place in the past, and ive got a good theory to boot about whats in da letter dats in da bottle. and it goes along with their expresions.
The letter says something like:
Dear bla bla bla,
I've found something interesting in Ansem's library or watever. Just to give you a preview it talks about a Keyblade War, and who created the Keyblades. or something like that. Come quickly, i gotta show you bla bla bla. meh.
Bla bla bla,
Mickey
Sora is looking at it blankly cuz he dont get it (too much time with Ariel),
Riku is smirking cuz he think's itll be fun, a new adventure
Kairi is looking worried at the mention of "War" she dont want to loose anyone/see them hurt again.
there. Also, acoding to me theory, the secret ending is most likely to be a flash back. As the game progreses (wiht the disney worlds) there will be more and more flash backs to this time to reveal what happend. Eventually Sora will wind up in a huge library where the final climatic sceens of the war will take place.
Also, i wonder if it will have any other Keyblade weilders/masters besides Sora. I mean, who was the one before Sora? did he/she have a big adventure with disney worlds like sora? hmmmm. meh.
Also, Xigbar looks kinda old, which means that he has a lof of information about it cuz hes been around the longest or that he was around back then and remembers who they were/what happend. Maby whoever Xigbar's person was before he went Nobody was a Keyblade weilder. meh.
Say, im new, where are you people getting these awesom KH avatars?
read it. i want some critigue on my theory. and where are you people getting your avatars?
KingMickey137
12-22-2006, 08:45 PM
nobod has confirmed that yet... unfortunatly
burntlettuce
12-23-2006, 02:10 PM
My theory is that its kinda like The Matrix, if youve seen this before youll know what i mean
There are many Keyblade masters ove time, each being pursauded into the path of darkness, Sora is the first Keyblade master to actually use the power of heart. While all the others before him have fallen.
I dunno what the hell i am going on about... Haha
wow dude thats sounds like it might be right but i have on question if sora was the first one then how come they were 3 keyblade masters at that time??? jw
brandon3397
12-23-2006, 03:13 PM
My theory is that its kinda like The Matrix, if youve seen this before youll know what i mean
There are many Keyblade masters ove time, each being pursauded into the path of darkness, Sora is the first Keyblade master to actually use the power of heart. While all the others before him have fallen.
I dunno what the hell i am going on about... Haha
u are right but wasnt there king mickey and riku with sora so that is 3 masters of the keyblades so i dont know what happen to the king ? jw:eek:
burntlettuce
12-23-2006, 04:21 PM
by looking at the secret ending there pro dead or it takes place way in the future or past
kh3wanter
12-23-2006, 05:21 PM
just one thing do u know when its coming out?? im dying for it but that sucks that its coming out for playstation 3 to much money. but ps3 will probaly cool off money wise by like 2008. peace.
Announced 2008/9, I'm guessing it won't be out until 2010 or so. Please read the other posts.
kh3wanter
12-23-2006, 05:32 PM
i believe that the leader of the knights wit the ears sticking up is xemnas th e last guy u fight in kh2. me and my friends saw a picture of the leader of the knights on the white dragon that you also had to beat. That dragon was xemnas pet. i have found keyblades on google for kh3 i found the one u get from toy story it is sick!!!!!!!!!! Its windy and stuff its awesome. i am not sure if it is xemnas but that is what i think i have no clue who the other to are ill look at clips on google to see if i know ill get back to u if i figure it out. peace out.........
burntlettuce
12-23-2006, 06:10 PM
i dont think it is only bc xemnes doesnt believe in the light only dark, besides anything u get from google cant be trusted people put weird stuff in it, it is just a search engine
Read my sig. Not only can the three knights not be Sora, Riku, or Kairi, but they can't be any other characters at all that we've seen in the games.
Cloud Blade
12-26-2006, 12:38 AM
Lawl. Might as well make a thread saying those 3 characters are not in the game yet lol:P They are 3 new people that have not been introduced .. So don't get any ideas :P
lol Maybe I should post a post with my sig pic as the pic on the post. Just so that people can look centimetres above where they're not looking to see it :rolleyes:
Unfortunately, it would be counted as a spam thread.
Cloud Blade
12-26-2006, 12:46 AM
Yeah you shoulda put the three knights on the name of the thread... That way people would look to see but oh well.. I thought i already posted in this before I looked at it lol :P I hope people look at this:P
Learn this now. Hardly anyone looks at anything on these forums lol. I've repeated myself so many times it's incredible (and I've said that about 6 or 7 times now ;))
Cloud Blade
12-26-2006, 12:50 AM
Gotta give some of them a break lol.. I don't mind repeating my self to new comers but when it's just the same person over and over.. I get kinda annoyed but this is also a informative site so gotta get over it.. :)
lol I try my best :)
We should get back to the rumours though lol
one winged angel
12-26-2006, 01:57 AM
i have an IDEA of what "birth by sleep" means.......see i think it points that there will be a prequel(since the characters are brand new).....explaining how the war began......and kh3 will have sora riku and kairi(hence the letter the king gives them @ the end) well anyways i think birth by sleep means that the war started before KH and the cause/s of the war werent defeated......but put into sort of acoma state....and in KH3 it will reawaken hence "birth by sleep" just an opinion feel free to comment:D
But no one's being born like that.
one winged angel
12-26-2006, 02:42 AM
no no no i ment like the person thing it....that started the war never died it was in a coma.....but later in the future it re awakened hence birth by sleep=re awakens because it was asleep/in a coma what ever
....which is just someone woken up. lol I suppose you could count it as being reborn, but I don't really think it does.
First off pixar needs to be bought by disney for som worlds and I need proof if these worlds would be in the next Kingdom Hearts game but if some or all are and more world or less I would be more excited for the next Kingdom Heats game(s).
DToXD
12-27-2006, 03:48 AM
No double posting!
lol Ah so there is someone who points that out. I never bother because no one listens to me anyway lol.
y2u, welcome to the forums but one of the rules is no double posting. You can edit your previous post. If you accidently post the same twice, you can delete one.
First off pixar needs to be bought by disney for som worlds and I need proof if these worlds would be in the next Kingdom Hearts game but if some or all are and more world or less I would be more excited for the next Kingdom Heats game(s).
Disney has already bought out Pixar. Due to that, it's expected that there will be quite a few worlds from Pixar including Toy Story, A Bug's Life, the Incredibles, and many more. :)
kairi10
12-27-2006, 07:51 AM
WHAT WE KNOW
The characters are original and have not been seen in previous games. They are NOT Sora, Riku, Kairi.
There are a lot of keyblades, a war is coming or has passed.
The Crossroads are important.
Has something to do with the Keyblade bringing chaos.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
The identity of the armoured figures.
Who the distant outlined figure is.
The place in the Kingdom Hearts timeline this trailer takes place in.
What the text means by "birth by sleep".
These worlds are based on my own assumptions and predictions, they are to be considered rumors.
Kingdom Hearts III will continue to feature Disney related worlds since that is the main aspect of the game. Due to some new ownership and popular previous worlds, many new and old worlds will likely make a return.
Pixar Worlds
Pixar worlds are an absolute in Kingdom Hearts III. Previously, modern-classics like "Finding Nemo" and "Toy Story" were not featured in Kingdom Hearts because, despite the Disney name, were registered with Pixar, a seperate company. But since the development of Kingdom Hearts II, Disney finally bought Pixar. As a result, all Pixar characters and movies are under the Disney Empire and due to their critical and commercial success, it would be a missed opportunity not to have these characters featured in the next game.
Toy Story - "Andy and/or Sid's Room"
With new ownership over Pixar, we may see a new level where Sora and Co. are the size of toys, much like when you shrink in Wonderland in the first game.
The Incredibles - "Nomanisan Island"
Everyone remembers the secretly evil island from the Incredibles where the super-family spring back into action to take down the nasty Syndrome. It wouldn't be a long shot to say that Sora, Donald and Goofy might don some tights and help the family out in the next game.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
A world and characters that were heavily requested in Kingdom Hearts II but never made the cut. We may expect some appearances in the next game.
"100 Acre Wood"
The one world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II where no Heartless roam. In this world the player simply plays through simple mini-games. This has proved to be popular, especially since it is completely optional and provides a good game for younger players. Since it came back in KH2, it's likely it will come back once again.
"Olympus Colisseum"
The tournaments on the Olympus world have been favorites of fans since the first KH game. Being one of the most visited world in any of the games, it would be unheard of to exclude it from the next game.
New World - "Sand World"
The world visible in the Secret Trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II may be a world in the next title, considering the World That Never Was from Kingdom Hearts II was featured in the Secret Trailer from the first Kingdom Hearts.
"Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden"
Being the very most important world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II, being the root of all evil and good, it's quite likely that it will play another large part in the next game. Probably being the world that is safe to return to at any time full of shops like Traverse Town or Twilight Town.
"Destiny Islands"
Since this is where the characters were last left off, it's almost impossible for the game to not begin here. And with the game likely being on Playstation 3, it's an excellent place to present the amazing new graphics. A world full of palm trees, sand, water, a nice sunset/rise and a quite little village.
So i hope you enjoyed all that ! :D :D
tell me how you feel.
how did you now that sora riku kairi are not there tell me!
:mad:
Crazyman
12-27-2006, 08:14 AM
Interviews, confirmed facts!!! Stop going on about it..
And godamn lower the size of your font Mr.Tinkerbell
Heart of sorrow
12-27-2006, 01:50 PM
well i'm realy expecting kh3 but i would also like to fing out about final fantasy versus 13 cause it was being made by the kh team and i have to assume it's gona be good.
how did you now that sora riku kairi are not there tell me!
:mad:
Quote from the interview (included in my sig):
'Who are the 3 armoured people?'
'Those 3 are completely new people who haven't shown up at all. In fact, I've already thought of their names. Back when I was making that movie, I only had their settings but now I've even drawn their faces to give myself a clearer image of them.'
Unkown-Aelix
12-27-2006, 04:35 PM
no no no i ment like the person thing it....that started the war never died it was in a coma.....but later in the future it re awakened hence birth by sleep=re awakens because it was asleep/in a coma what ever
so your saying that Whats wakeing up is not a person, but the war between good/evil? Possibly even ThE keyBlade that is "Waking Up">?
well, we know that the whole Sora storyline was caused by Ansem and Xehanort(-sniker- funny name, no wonder he went evil! -sniker-Xeha-more sniker-NORT!!!!hahahahhahah)
when they created/re-created the Hertless, which lead to the Nobodies. Which lead to the Soulless(maybe).
-sniker-NORT!!!! he he
"Hey Norty! how you doin?"
"Shut up!!! Whaahahahahahaa"
"Awww come back NORT!!!! we didnt mean nothin',"
"Yea right, you just wanna make fun of my name!"
"Well, yeah. -laugh- NORT!!!!! hahahahhaha"
"Whaaaaahahaaaaaa MOOOOMMMY!!!!!!"
But really, what honest parent names their kid "Xehanort"? Ha ha ha.
Heart of sorrow
12-27-2006, 04:43 PM
A deranged one :D :D :D
:o :eek: Srry for double posting:o :eek:
Burgerking
04-08-2007, 06:52 AM
The first post in this thread has been stolen from the site The Kingdom Key (http://kingdomhearts.rpgplanet.gamespy.com)
Visit the following links to see the original documents which this has been taken from. I'm also mentioning this because it has been posted on the main site as well.
http://kingdomhearts.rpgplanet.gamespy.com/kingdomhearts3/worlds.shtml
http://web.archive.org/web/20060604022140/kingdomhearts.rpgplanet.gamespy.com/kingdomhearts3/index.shtml
BirthBySleep
04-08-2007, 07:24 AM
This thread is old, right? It should be closed even if it is not. The whole theory presented by this, even if it is from an outside source is pathetic. It really is kind of sad, seeing actual fan sites coming up with such stupid theories that aren't based off any information given from previous games, and/or interviews. You'd think they would realize that the video does not concern Kingdom Hearts III, but the new series that is connected to Kingdom Hearts, which therefore renders this whole thread as void. Sorry to sound like i'm bitchin, but seriously, you'd think professional websites would come up with more concrete theories, I've seen like 4-5 now that have completely random theories that have no back up evidence. Try again =).
Unkown-Aelix
04-09-2007, 12:52 AM
This thread is old, right? It should be closed even if it is not. The whole theory presented by this, even if it is from an outside source is pathetic. It really is kind of sad, seeing actual fan sites coming up with such stupid theories that aren't based off any information given from previous games, and/or interviews. You'd think they would realize that the video does not concern Kingdom Hearts III, but the new series that is connected to Kingdom Hearts, which therefore renders this whole thread as void. Sorry to sound like i'm bitchin, but seriously, you'd think professional websites would come up with more concrete theories, I've seen like 4-5 now that have completely random theories that have no back up evidence. Try again =).
no, you have to try again. Random theories is the game that Square Enix plays with us. they WANT us to make up theories about their next games, and that's what we are doing. I'm assuming you only read what Mr.Tinkerbell wrote, and that WAS his ONLY post here.
as for "stealing" he didn't give credit, but he DID start a thread for rumors and he also brought that to this site.
Theories that have nothing to do with what people said, interviews, previous games are just fine. Its the ones that go AGAINST what people said, interviews, previous games that are wrong.
as for closing this thread because it is old, why dont we ban all inactive members too. Not active for 3 days? BAN! I dont think so. Someon may come up with a new idea that fits in that thread, or something else.
There is no such thing as a concrete theory! its an oxymoron! (just like Good morning) theories are when people go out on a limb to sugest something that could be wrong. the only one who can come up with something concrete about the storyline is Nomura, the man in charge of the storyline.
"Soulless" "Endless" "Chasers" "The Lost Two" they could mean ANYTHING!
BirthBySleep
04-09-2007, 10:44 AM
no, you have to try again. Random theories is the game that Square Enix plays with us. they WANT us to make up theories about their next games, and that's what we are doing. I'm assuming you only read what Mr.Tinkerbell wrote, and that WAS his ONLY post here.
as for "stealing" he didn't give credit, but he DID start a thread for rumors and he also brought that to this site.
Theories that have nothing to do with what people said, interviews, previous games are just fine. Its the ones that go AGAINST what people said, interviews, previous games that are wrong.
as for closing this thread because it is old, why dont we ban all inactive members too. Not active for 3 days? BAN! I dont think so. Someon may come up with a new idea that fits in that thread, or something else.
There is no such thing as a concrete theory! its an oxymoron! (just like Good morning) theories are when people go out on a limb to sugest something that could be wrong. the only one who can come up with something concrete about the storyline is Nomura, the man in charge of the storyline.
"Soulless" "Endless" "Chasers" "The Lost Two" they could mean ANYTHING!
Yes you do have a point, I semi-believe you, but really I'm afraid a lot of theories are pure nonsense and are really just a waste of time, you need to consider information we already know in order to create a theory that is worth anyone's time. And I think Nomura does not want us to come up with random theories, but to use what we know in order to form decent theories that are at least somewhat relevant to what will actually happen. Good morning is an oxymoron? lol? since when.
Unkown-Aelix
04-09-2007, 03:26 PM
Good morning is an oxymoron? lol? since when.
since I woke up.
anyway, yes, the theory that "Sora will start dancing" is a random theory completely out there.....but "Endless" isn't (it can be seen in Deep Dive)...
SORA WILL EAT PIE!!!
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