Creatures of the Paths Theory

[Khaos]

Ok, this I just thought of. And I think Ill need to add all my other ideas here soon.

Ok. We can assume there is the paths of Light, Dark, Dawn and Twilight.

Heartless=Dark, as we can all agree with. Now, ive found this bit of information:

Nobodies are creatures without hearts. They are leftovers "born" in Twilight Town, existing as merely the body and soul of people who lost their hearts to darkness.

Does it strike odd that Twilight town is named after what one of the paths are? So, maybe, Nobodies are the creatures born of Twilight, Heartless of Dark.

Is it possible we will find out whats born of Light and Dawn?

Also, the information sort of removes the theory of a 3rd creation of a person, since Nobodies are merely the body and Soul.

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Ok, this I just thought of. And I think Ill need to add all my other ideas here soon.

Ok. We can assume there is the paths of Light, Dark, Dawn and Twilight.

Heartless=Dark, as we can all agree with. Now, ive found this bit of information:

Nobodies are creatures without hearts. They are leftovers "born" in Twilight Town, existing as merely the body and soul of people who lost their hearts to darkness.

Does it strike odd that Twilight town is named after what one of the paths are? So, maybe, Nobodies are the creatures born of Twilight, Heartless of Dark.

Is it possible we will find out whats born of Light and Dawn?

Also, the information sort of removes the theory of a 3rd creation of a person, since Nobodies are merely the body and Soul.



i think so, but you never no
keep up the good thoughts

[Aquila]

Maybe if once the body is removed (defeation of a Nobody) the soul is what remains?

It's funny how we have HeartLESS (which actually have hearts - captive hearts, but hearts nonetheless) and NObodies (which do have bodies...). Perhaps once the body is removed/destroyed there'll be a soulLESS (which will actually have a soul... since that's like the only part left xD)

It does mean that the hypothetical Soulless is not another entity created when a person turns into a Heartless, as the Nobody was, but kind of what is left over when a Nobody is destroyed. It wouldn't have much of a form, having no body - it would be like half a Nobody xD p'raps it would take over others and possess their bodies. It would be searching for both a heart (?) and a body. (or perhaps just the latter...?)

...with the soul being the essense of a person (whatever that is!) and the heart the emotions/etc and the body the... physical form, though as seen by the Nobodies that can certainly change. How constant it stays depends on the original strength of the heart, which is missing in a Nobody anyway?... *confused*

I don't know, I'm just inventing wildly here :D

ETA: I do think you're right about the Nobody<->twilight creature thoughts. ^_^

[Khaos]

Soulless would most likely be Dawn Creatures...If they were the remains of Nobodies. However, where do Souls go? Kingdom Souls? :P

[Aquila]

xD

Yeah, have no idea where all the Nobody parts are supposed to head off to once they get killed. I guess that's to do with the whole "Nobodies not really existing" thing. That always confuses me so bad... I mean, I can SEE 'em, I can FIGHT 'em, I can TALK to 'em (O-XIII) yet they don't really exist. I can die at their hands and they don't really exist?? mehhhhh.

return to daaaaaaaarkness. mm hmm.

(why do they return to darkness, when they are rejected by both light and... DARKNESS?)

Dawn creatures... yeah. *nodnod*

Have no idea where souls go. Hmmmmmmm. Perhaps they also head over to Kingdom Hearts and... I dunno... join up with a random heart? And then goes off in search of a body??

After their time as a Soulless, of course.

O.o

[Riku in the Dawn]

Nice thoughts, i agree, lately with what people are saying, i tend to agree that those 3 armoured figures are evil and the black one coming is good, so its possible, idk?
As far as my thoughts on the 'Souless'; Souless would be a combination of a Heartless and a Nobody. They essentially would be searching for a heart[or hearts] thinking that it would reincarnate them to their original body forms, however, they would be made of nothingness, being created of the body and soul of their orignal self, except they don't have a shell like the Nobodies. Basically they'll be a zombie inter twined with a ghost.
I think we already saw a glimpse of them?
Remember in KH1 once Riku was defeated by Sora and lost the keyblade after he just took it from Sora? When that ghost kind of, of Ansem[the heartless of Xenahort] or Xemnas, i dont remember who it was, appears, they didn't have a definite body from, but it was soul, looking for a body to inhabit with a heart, but i think this Souless already had a heart, but needed a definite heart to make him a actual body form, and thats where Riku came in.
Idk if im right or not, but possible??

[Unkown-Aelix]

When a person "dies" or hes their heart stolen by the Heartless, a heartless and a Nobody are created. I think its safe to assume that when a nobody and a heartless are re-combined the person is brought back.

Were getting on to the theory that the new Soul Less will be on the side of Light and Good.

One point were ignoring, and NO ONE has posted yet is, WHAT ABOUT THE REGULAR PEOPLE?!?!?!?
Ok, Heartless-Night, Nobodies-Twilight, Soulless-Dawn, Regular People(Sora, Mickey, Perce, Onette)-Light.

hey, remember the summons(from KH1)? Isnt that supposed to be their "soul" or whatever in side the rock? Well we know for sure that the summons were on Sora's side, but then again they were very stong hearted people/things.

Another thing, the Nobodies exist in "Nothing" They are rejected by both light and dark. WE all think of "Nothing" as just that, nothing. The ultimate in-between.
How bout "Nothing" is instead a new realm of darkness/Twilight Town? The Nobodies were born into Nothingness, born into Twilight Town.
The Heartless have The World that Never Was and The End of THe World, the Nobodies have Twilight Town, and the regular people have all the other worlds.

Then again who ever said that the Heartless/Nobodies could have more than 1/2 worlds to themselves? The heartless have 2, so why cant the nobodies? For all we know there are thousands of Heartless and Nobody worlds.

Then where are teh SoulLess worlds? well when someone dies (in real life) isnt their soul supposed to go to Heaven or Hell? Maybe there will be a new "Heaven/Paradise" and "Hell/Underworld" world.
and no the Hercules one dosent count.


I read some where that there were 4 original keyblade weilerds, the 4 people in Sunset Horizions. 2 of them went into darkness and spread fear and terror across the worlds while the other 2 went into light and spread, uh, happyness? eeemmmm no. how bout fighting the darkness.yea there we go.
Well anyway one of the Darkness Keyblade Weilders choose to come back to the light. He/She was/is the "Dawn" you know, from
night-----(dawn)---day----(twilight)----night


Also we all know what teh 4 original Keyblades look like, the 2 Kingdom Keys, the "Way to the Dawn" and the Heartless Keyblade Riku/Ansem used to make Sora into a Heartless.

so theres my 2 cents.

[vanilla bear]

so what exactly do the 4 wielders represent?

[Khaos]

Id assume the four paths...And If I remember correctly, the World That Never Was was created by the Nobodies...Unless it was just the castle bit...Although Im pretty certain Heartless don't have a "Home" world...

As for People=Light, it would be a reasonable estimation...

[Roxas The key to destiny]

arent the 4 paths light,darkness,twighlight,and dawn

[vanilla bear]

so what we could be dealing with is : those of twilight and darkness and on the other side are those of light and dawn right?

[darkheart4ever]

okay so let me this straight i'm sure that the last world in KH1 was the heartless world nd 2nd the 4 crossroad paths are only determined by the person that is in them

[Roxas The key to destiny]

yeah but i just thought of this .

maybe the four paths reapresent this

Remember that giant nobody Roxas fought.it was called twighlight thorn.
one of the giant heartless that sora fought was called darside

So maybe its like

Light-Sora
Dawn-Riku
Twighlight-nobodys
darkness-Heartless
:cool: :D :mad: :)

[vanilla bear]

hmm, i never really thought about that but it would make sense... sora was responsible for bringing the light back, riku is on the path to dawn, the heartless are obviously the darkness and that would leave the nobodies to represent the twilight and they are born in twilight town anyway... that's perfect, actually

[Roxas The key to destiny]

oh yeah!!!!!!!!!


anyways heres there smilies

Sora-:D
Riku-:cool:
nobodies-:mad:
heartless-:(

[darkheart4ever]

That's cool and maybe the crossroads is an actually place KH3 or maybe even a world where every path you take takes you further or more away from your destiny

[vanilla bear]

what do you mean the crossroads may actually be a place..?

[Riku in the Dawn]

i think what he means is kind of like fable, that every decision you make takes you through one path. and probably after every mission or world, youll go to the sunset horizion setting and see where u are, wether path of dawn twilight light or dark?
i th ink thats what hes trying to say?
or maybe sunset horizons is the center of all worlds? where the path u take takes u to certain worlds that follow those 4 elements, and everytime u enter the dark worlds the more and more the darkness is bound to over power u.

[vanilla bear]

i see..i was thinking sunset horizons was the center of it all, anyway... my idea for a fable-esque game would be to start you off in the middle of this keyblade war as a young person and then you start to grow over time and pick sides, so to speak

[Riku in the Dawn]

yeah, or maybe not start of in the keyblade war, but start off as sora did, in ur home having funn but at the same time being weary and cautious because of the keyblade war and everything thats happened.

[vanilla bear]

i doubt square enix will take the fable approach, but it would be a pretty awesome game... i'm sure this one will be anyways... i would play a versus game also.. like tekken, just with kh characters