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Magick
01-06-2007, 03:18 PM
What do you think the graphics will be like for KH3 on the PS3. The metal on the iron clad soldiers will have all the reflections and refractions in game just like in the FMV. Or do you think they might try to be boring and keep the old cartoonish graphics?

Artemist
01-06-2007, 03:22 PM
whats the FMV

Magick
01-06-2007, 03:54 PM
As in FMV, I mean full motion video, like the opening cinematics in KH. In the PS3, even gameplay graphics match the quality of the KH intro. In other words, instead of these:

http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/ps2/kingdomhearts/ariel.gif


you'll have these:


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p140/Brudvigk/ariel.jpg

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18325254/?qo=4&q=realistic+belle&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38535709/?qo=18&q=3d+mickey&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5

http://www.tjeremyt.com/images/crazy_old_coot.jpg

Magick
01-06-2007, 04:00 PM
Kingdom Hearts uses low poly models, such as these ones, which are viewed in a 3D program:


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p140/Brudvigk/aladdinss8gc.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p140/Brudvigk/simba.jpg

The lighting in the PS2 is all default and low quality. However, the PS3 graphics have a poly limit of 75 million per second and are so realistic you cannot tell even if gameplay is real or not. Imagine the graphics of Advent Children the movie being interactive. This means no more of those clothes that are drawn directly on to the character, but actual cloth that flutters as the character moves.


Not only will the actual game models be better, but the gameplay will be much more realistic and interactive, with more Artificial Intelligence. This means no more stuppid repetetive attacks from enemies. Heartless will be smart enough to even use the enviroment they are in to fight (such as hiding in chests)

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 06:22 PM
i like to imagine that the graphics will look like the ending scene in kh2.. when sora starts reading the letter and then they go home.. those were smooth

SquareISKing
01-06-2007, 06:43 PM
i like to imagine that the graphics will look like the ending scene in kh2.. when sora starts reading the letter and then they go home.. those were smooth

You can actually count on game-play graphics to be better than that. Square is using a newly developed graphics engine called White Engine that enables them to make game-play graphics as good as in-game movie graphics. They are trying to make game-play graphics on par with graphics with Advent Children. Look at the trailer for FFXIII and versus- those are all gameplay. amazing isn't it?

I don't understand technical terms really for progamming a video game- but i do know that much of the realism comes from lighting and textures, and that is where PS3 is excelling above any of the competition- Wii and 360. And much of that is due to Blu-Ray and all that space on those discs.

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 06:47 PM
oh i've watched the trailer for ffxiii quite a few times and i own advent children so i know what you mean... that's amazing though! i thought the end scene in kh3 looked great, but this will look even better..

SquareISKing
01-06-2007, 06:52 PM
oh i've watched the trailer for ffxiii quite a few times and i own advent children so i know what you mean... that's amazing though! i thought the end scene in kh3 looked great, but this will look even better..

Actually-most of the producers of PS3 games so far have said that they havent' even fiqured out how to use the PS3 so far, so it will continually get better. Factor Five said that by the time Lair is released in mid-07, only 50 percent of the ps3 will be tapped. So by the time KH3 comes out, it is going to rock the planet.

little fun fact- "if PS3 had been launched in 1998- it would have been the most powerful supercomputer in the world." I can't remember what site I read that on, but it was a technogical software something or other site. lol.

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 06:54 PM
haha, i can believe that... i guess it's a good thing that kh3 won't come out for a few years then.. hopefully ps3 will be the ultimate machine and the game will be amazing

The Graceful Assassin
01-06-2007, 07:08 PM
I don't know if the graphics will be as good as the FMVs mainly because it would make Disney characters look akward. It needs to retain some of its cartoonish aspects.

SquareISKing
01-06-2007, 07:10 PM
Well, thats true-but cartoony ish characters can be done under any type of graphics- they just look outstanding. lol. Hence the lighting and texture stuff I said earlier. lol

The Graceful Assassin
01-06-2007, 07:13 PM
Are you telling me that Donald and Goofy didn't look at all... weird in the ending FMV? I think so lol

SquareISKing
01-06-2007, 07:19 PM
Are you telling me that Donald and Goofy didn't look at all... weird in the ending FMV? I think so lol

LOl, weird? I think you are weird! Just kidding. No, I thought they looked great. You didn't like them? why do you think they looked weird?

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 07:22 PM
yeah i thought they looked great... i guess everyone is just so used to seeing them only as cartoons they weren't prepared for the CGI greatness... it ran very smoothly for ps2

The Graceful Assassin
01-06-2007, 07:26 PM
That kind of quality isn't meant for everything. Better graphics doesn't mean "better. period."

They're cartoons for a reason, making it like real life would just be strange and it would lose some of the magic.

Dakotz
01-06-2007, 07:28 PM
nope. i think that kh3 would still be cartoony. but would also have the FMV cutscenes at the beginning and end. of course the character models would have a MUCH higher polygon count.

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 07:28 PM
it's not real life, it's still animated.. there's no point in putting it on a powerful system if you're not going to utilize or exploit its capabilities... we only see them for a few minutes in CGI anyway.. you can complain about it losing the magic when kh3 comes out and the whole thing looks awesome

SquareISKing
01-06-2007, 07:42 PM
it's not real life, it's still animated.. there's no point in putting it on a powerful system if you're not going to utilize or exploit its capabilities... we only see them for a few minutes in CGI anyway.. you can complain about it losing the magic when kh3 comes out and the whole thing looks awesome

of course.

obviously they won't make it seem "real" then it takes away from the essence of the game. I think it would really weird to have "real" ducks and "real" dogs and "real" mice walking around, wouldn't you say? lol

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 07:44 PM
haha, i love that games are getting better by the minute... it looks real while keeping that great cartoonish feel... and who knows how amazing this game is going to look? it'll be a few years before it comes out but i'm betting even the people against making disney characters look real won't complain

SquareISKing
01-06-2007, 07:58 PM
haha, i love that games are getting better by the minute... it looks real while keeping that great cartoonish feel... and who knows how amazing this game is going to look? it'll be a few years before it comes out but i'm betting even the people against making disney characters look real won't complain

God I can't wait for the first Trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 08:01 PM
i remember when kh1 came out there were no tv spots.. when 2 came around, there were a few.. i bet once kh3 arrives there will be commercials like crazy.. i'm gonna have to reserve a copy so far in advance

Sora Keyblade Master
01-06-2007, 08:43 PM
when KH1, KHCOM, KH2 arrived there were comertials like crazy, imagine when Final Mix comes and when the KH3 comes we're gonna be old. So I think we should be talking about Final Mix.

Roxas The key to destiny
01-06-2007, 08:47 PM
when KH1, KHCOM, KH2 arrived there were comertials like crazy, imagine when Final Mix comes and when the KH3 comes we're gonna be old. So I think we should be talking about Final Mix.

If you think about it khcom was the most advertised.
And good thinking Vanilla Bear ill have to reserve one before the bus explodes:eek:

Sora Keyblade Master
01-06-2007, 09:00 PM
really? I thought it was KH2

vanilla bear
01-06-2007, 09:23 PM
i live in arkansas and i never really saw very many kh commercials.. maybe i wasn't looking for them. either way, i'd rather them not advertise on tv when it comes out. that way i'll have a better chance of snagging a copy haha

Rex
01-09-2007, 04:39 PM
if they stick to the graphics from KH3 then it will probably be for the PS3 but i hope that it will be for the ps2:D

vanilla bear
01-09-2007, 04:59 PM
well i wouldn't doubt if they do make it for the ps2 also.. however, the game is supposed to great, nomura wants it to be amazingly fast.. the ps3 is the only system that will really be able to handle all of it smoothly

SquareISKing
01-09-2007, 06:57 PM
well i wouldn't doubt if they do make it for the ps2 also.. however, the game is supposed to great, nomura wants it to be amazingly fast.. the ps3 is the only system that will really be able to handle all of it smoothly

Nononono. lol. god of war 2 is the last AAA title coming to the ps2. The ps2 would be nine years old by the time KH3 is made, do you really think they would release such a huge title on a nine year old console? lol

vanilla bear
01-09-2007, 07:01 PM
oh that's right, we talked about that earlier... people think by the time kh3 comes out that the ps3 will still be as expensive as it is now.. it won't be... granted it won't be cheap, but still.. for all the stuff you're getting is incredibly priced... once i get mine i'll never get another ps2 game.. i'm just waiting for ffxiii to come out

SquareISKing
01-09-2007, 07:05 PM
oh that's right, we talked about that earlier... people think by the time kh3 comes out that the ps3 will still be as expensive as it is now.. it won't be... granted it won't be cheap, but still.. for all the stuff you're getting is incredibly priced... once i get mine i'll never get another ps2 game.. i'm just waiting for ffxiii to come out

In that case you'll have to wait a while. There are tons of great games still being made for the PS2, though, so nobody has anything to worry about. Production on the PS2 is supposed to still be in full swing for another year or two.

vanilla bear
01-09-2007, 07:12 PM
yeah i figured... sony probably heard enough complaints about their 'overly-priced' system... i don't think i'll be buying any more ps2 games, however.. i've got enough final fantasies to keep me busy until i get a ps3.. my mom offered to get me one around april for my 20th birthday, but i don't really see any games i want until oblivion at least

SquareISKing
01-09-2007, 07:20 PM
yeah i figured... sony probably heard enough complaints about their 'overly-priced' system... i don't think i'll be buying any more ps2 games, however.. i've got enough final fantasies to keep me busy until i get a ps3.. my mom offered to get me one around april for my 20th birthday, but i don't really see any games i want until oblivion at least

Yeah Oblivion won't be but a couple of months, thank goodness. but I have some good new for you, here...

http://www.psu.com/node/6793

vanilla bear
01-09-2007, 07:22 PM
oh man that is awesome... i noticed a few days ago best buy had a nice shipment in their online store and i was really confused... my birthday's in april, that's when i plan on getting a ps3, but in march ps3 has to release in europe and australia(i think)... i'm hoping there won't be another shortage after that..

SquareISKing
01-09-2007, 07:28 PM
oh man that is awesome... i noticed a few days ago best buy had a nice shipment in their online store and i was really confused... my birthday's in april, that's when i plan on getting a ps3, but in march ps3 has to release in europe and australia(i think)... i'm hoping there won't be another shortage after that..

yeah, the article just above that one talked about how Sony execs. were still looking at a March launch for Europe. So they are probably going to start stockpiling pretty soon to get ready.

vanilla bear
01-09-2007, 07:31 PM
that sucks... i would have much rather them waited to launch with a solid number of units than to launch with such a shortage..